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Old 04-30-2003, 12:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Need some help with my automatic to four speed swap...

Ok, so far I have got the four speed top loader transmission, the flywheel, and the bellhousing, I need to know what kind of clutch I need to get and what other parts I need. The clutch pedal is already in the car, apparently the car was a four speed at one time, but it was origionally an automatic. The car is a 1966 Fairlane with a 289 engine.

Another thing I was thinking about is should I be able to do this by myself without too many problems?
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok, so far I have got the four speed top loader transmission, the flywheel, and the bellhousing, I need to know what kind of clutch I need to get and what other parts I need. The clutch pedal is already in the car, apparently the car was a four speed at one time, but it was origionally an automatic. The car is a 1966 Fairlane with a 289 engine.

Another thing I was thinking about is should I be able to do this by myself without too many problems?
First of all, it is really not a huge ordeal...and if you have the clutch pedal in the car now, you are more than half way there! Depending on what is done to the motor will determine on the clutch that you want to get. But with what you have I would guess a 10.5" clutch is what you are going to use. When I did my swap the hardest thing was the damned clutch fork..they made quite a few different forks and finding a 73 fork was expensive.

you are going to need your Z bar, and both mounting brackets for the swap still. I am thinking that is it...if I can think of anything else I will let you know. Ebay usually has it all for 65/66 mustangs so that should not be a problem.

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Old 04-30-2003, 02:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Need some help with my automatic to four speed swap...

Ok, so what kind of a clutch fork do I need and where can I get it at? Also, I've never done anything like this before, what is a Z bar?
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hell I forgot to mention both clutch rods...as for the fork, I am not too sure Someone will have to tell you if a mustang fork can innerchange with it. I have a 69 mustang fork I need to either send back, or sell if it is innerchangeable.?
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Need some help with my automatic to four speed swap...

Just a quick search on Ebay, and I got this...it is NOT a fairlane, but for a 65/66 mustang...maybe they are innerchangeable?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=42606

Long rod on the left is the clutch rod pedal to Zbar. The Z bar is the black thing in the middle with a tube, and two steel arms coming off each side. The clean piece of steel on the right is your clutch adjustment rod. You have a return spring, and a dust boot. I do not know what is in the bag, but I would imagine it is just bushings. Two things that are missing from this are the fork, and the mounting brackets for the Zbar.

I would find out what you can swap with a mustang, er anything else...Good Luck!

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Old 04-30-2003, 01:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Need some help with my automatic to four speed swap...

and thank you much! Looking for you I found something I may bid on...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33730

Steel piece on the left is the mount that bolts onto the bellhousing, and The middle bolts onto the frame, and the Zbar (on the right) pivots on the two knobs sticking out of each bracket.

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Old 04-30-2003, 02:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Need some help with my automatic to four speed swap...

So does anyone know if the things from the Mustang are interchangeable with the Fairlane? Also, does anyone know of somewhere that has a walkthrough for this swap? Thanks for all the help!
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Need some help with my automatic to four speed swap...

Best walk through I used was, a Haynes book, and this site. In the haynes go to auto trans removal, manual trans install. It is actually quite simple Once you get going, it gets easier..

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Need some help with my automatic to four speed swap...

I've got the '66 shop manual and I was browsing through it and I believe that I'll be able to pull it off with it after I get all the parts together.
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Watch out when you buy the Z bar from a different model. Save yourself a lot of grief and buy the correct Z bar. They have to work around the steering box usually and are pretty precise.

Also check your bearing retainer on the front of the 4 speed. The casting number starting with C5 is for 6 bolt 289's and 302's. The C0 number means it's for 5 bolt 260's and 289's.
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Old 05-01-2003, 10:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Need some help with my automatic to four speed swap...

I did this swap in my 70 mustang and I used a cast iron bellhousing from a early bronco 289 and the flywheel,it was an 11 inch clutch that goes on that flywheel.I also used a diaphram type clutch zoom clutch #mu2030-1 I think,this type cluth is easier on the leg and alot smoother.I also used the toploader trans.
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