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Old 04-30-2004, 06:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bonded or riveted brake shoes??

The front drum brakes on my '63 Ranchero get grabby when they get hot. Almost like they want to lock up.
I've been told to make sure and use bonded shoes because the recess for the rivets along with the hole in the center of the rivet help kool them and keep them from grabbing.
Almost like a drilled disc.
I don't think it's a hydraulic issue since the master cylinder is fairly new as are the wheel cylinders.
I'm not sure what kind of shoe is in there now.
Any feedback or direction is appreicated.
Mike
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Old 04-30-2004, 10:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bonded or riveted brake shoes??

Try a different compound(or even brand) in the front. What brand you using now?
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Old 05-01-2004, 02:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Bonded or riveted brake shoes??

I doubt that the rivet recesses in riveted shoes will help cooling as there is no air flow over them when the brakes are applied as the shoes are tight against the drum whereas drilled discs are out in the open air. It has more to do with lining quality, as previously mentioned. As a rule riveted lining is better quality than bonded lining. All new vehicles with rear drum brakes come with riveted lining. Look at the edge of the lining on a new shoe, from the side. You should see a code stamped on the lining which has to do with the friction characteristics of the lining material; whether it grabs better hot or cold, hardness, wear characteristics, etc. Deciphering this code is tricky as information is hard to get. Parts books usually don't have it. Calling the manufacturer or an Internet search may help. I have seen bonded lining come partially loose from the shoe and make the brakes extremely grabby.
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Old 05-01-2004, 10:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Bonded or riveted brake shoes??

Thanx Guys!
I have my local auto parts store, not a chain, but a real local shop that is very sharp getting me a set. They stock Bendix as a rule but are going to get me a set of Wagners just to compare.
The Bendix are asbestos free, I'm not sure what the Wagners will be. We'll see.

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