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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-12-2004, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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Recommendations needed for power disc brake kit

Hi, I'm looking to put power disc brakes on a 66 v8 mustang. Don't really want to search and buy parts here or there, but looking for a complete kit (booster/master/differential/proportioning valve/lines/rotors/calipers/brackets/etc.). Everything so I won't have to run to the parts store 10 times! Anyone recommend a complete kit to purchase? Thanks, Chris
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I used a kit from Mustangs-unlimited.com on my FB the kit was complete. I don't remember the Pn but it was a nice kit.
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Here's some options:

http://www.mpbrakes.com/
http://www.ssbrakes.com/
http://www.baer.com/
http://www.classictube.com/


Everything on my front end is from Master Power Brakes (the first link above) . My rear discs are from Stainless Steel Brakes (second link above) . I went with SS brakes on the rear because I liked their caliper with integral parking brake better than the one available from MP brakes.
Both companies supplied kits that were substantially complete, but hard line / flex line fitting conflicts may come up no matter how complete the kit is. See the fourth link above for a good source of hard line kits & any type of flex line you need (including hard line kits specifically pre-bent for any stock or aftermarket brake installation you may have) .

If I were doing it again from scratch, I'd probably get the entire brake hardware system from Baer Brakes (third link above).

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Thanks for the info kewolfe. I'd like to retain use of my stock 14" wheels and the MPBrakes system requires 15" wheels. Do you know if the SSBrake system also requires 15" wheels? Thanks
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I don't understand why MP brakes says that their 4 piston caliper brakes also require 15" wheels, as it is identical to the system available originally and those could be used with 14" wheels.
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The 14" wheels Ford used on the 4 piston disc brake cars was a special wheel. How do I know? I had a flat on my old 66 GT with the 4 piston calipers. My spare was on a std 14" wheel. When I went to install the spare on the front, guess what, it wouldn't fit. I had to bolt the flat back on the front, let the jack down, jack up the rear to remove a rear tire, put the spare on the rear and then jack up the front again to put the rear tire I removed on the front to fix the flat so I could go home from work.

That is why they say 15" wheels required. Now, the 14" styled steel wheels may have wroked between std and disc brake cars, I don't have any idea on them.

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SSB has front and rear kits that fit with standard 14" wheels. They have many options to choose from. The kit comes complete, but you will have to make [adjustments] to the standard brake lines. I used a replacement stainless brake line kit. Expect to cut, rebend, add adapters, and change the flare nuts on the lines. Also since my rear drop was 34 yrs old, I replaced it and added braided lines. The replacement drop T block has the L and R outputs at 180 degrees apart, this is different than the original on mine. I mounted the adjustable valve on the inside of the rear frame rail, so I had to fabricate a new line to the drop. I also had to lengthen the parking brake cable. Get a good flare tool. You can replace the brakes quickly but the brake lines in my case took allot of time to get right. It was worth it!
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Ive been watching this thread out of curiousity for myself. Do the kits offered only compare to just getting the Granada brakes and doing the changeover. I mean other than being all new are they functionally better than the old system or are they just comparable? Would it be noticably better than the original disc brakes that could have come on the car from the factory? The one I havent seen mentioned is the Wilwood setup its around $695 although its more of a drag car setup it says it will work for our aplication also. It would be nice to have all brand new parts to put on but is it worth the extra $400 or so over Granada discs?
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wcj56 wrote: Do the kits offered only compare to just getting the Granada brakes and doing the changeover. __________________________________________________ It depends on how much you want to spend for performance and longevity. I expect entry level aftermarket front disks brakes to be comparable to granada front disk brakes. With aftermarket you can get larger diameter rotors, slotted or drilled rotors, aluminium calipers, more pistons and HP pads. These features should improve performance. In my case I went with all ss componets and used silicone brake fluid so I never need to rebuild the cylinders again.
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go with manual front disc brakes. Better pedal feel, less parts, works whether engine is running or not.
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Helmantel wrote,

"The 14" wheels Ford used on the 4 piston disc brake cars was a special wheel."

Which is correct because I had a 67 gt (disc) and my pops had a 67 std(drum) and my gt std wheels had more of an offset than my pops std wheels. When we put the std drum rim on the disc, it binded on the caliper when tightened. I didn't know what I did wrong but the car wouldn't move, then we figured out it was a difference in the std wheels (we used hupcaps, not the styled steel wheel).

I called MustangsUnlimited today and asked if their kit could be used on std 14" drum wheels and the guy told me yes. He said him and his buddy put their kit on his 65 gt and his stock rims worked fine. But I asked and he conferred that the gt came factory with disc brakes. I told him about the difference between drum and disc wheels and he just laughed and said he'd never heard of it. I reassured him it was true and he said I could think whatever I wanted and that the kit would fit w/o any flaws or additional modifications. This was the part technician specialist whom I had been forwarded to! I don't think I'd want him working for me.

It seems that most enthusiasts whom change to discs already have some sort of aftermarket wheel/styled steel wheel which clears most disc set-ups unlike the early mustang 14" x 4 1/2" or 5" stock factory wheel.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've come to the conclusion that to put discs up front on a 65-66 v8 mustang, I'm going to have to find the special original offset rims, and/or put on wider 68 and newer wheels, and/or buy a new set of aftermarket rims.

Comments/corrections anyone? thanks
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