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Old 12-04-2005, 03:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stall RPM speed on stock 1965 Mustang w/C4

Does anyone know what the stock Ford converters stall at?

Also, if I am running Dexron II instead for Ford F fluid how will that change the stall if any?

I building a new motor with a bigger cam and wonder how high a stall I should go for a street driver. It will have a 289 4bbl, dual exhausts and 3.25 posi rear end.

Finally, has anyone mated the trans to the engine and then installed the engine. That seems to easier to me, but I have never done it and I just came accross a ford repair manual that said you can't do it because the combo with the tranny is too heavy???

thanks for your input.
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1) To my best memory...stock convertors stall at 1200-1500 in early stangs.
2) Trans fulid type will not have any effect on stall speed.
3) I think 2200-2400 stall will fit the bill nicely in this application.
4) I have installed combos this way and it does help you spend less time on your back installing a trans. if you have a lift I would do it seperately. No lift, I would do it together.

Hope this helps, Tim.

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Old 12-04-2005, 05:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Any recommendations on Torque converters?

Are TCI converters good, them seem resonably priced. How about B & M or TSI?

Where is good place to buy at a good price?

thx, dave
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I like to use converters built to the vehicle specs. I use converters from Dynamic Converters(1-302-454-9203). I have never had a problem with them. I have had problems with TCI units.Tim.
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I've heard good and bad about TCI convertors. I had no trouble with the 2500 stall TCI I had. I like Edge racing convertors from experience, and have heard a lot of good stuff about the previously mentioned Dynamic. I have not used their product, but they are popular around here since they are local.
My stock C4 converter stalled around 1500, but it was a '78. My guess is they are similar.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have run two TCI converters with no problems. I have one of them for sale in the classifieds if you are interested.
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i installed the motor and tranny at the same time and except for how high it needs to go, its not that bad. But this was in a full size torino. and about the converter, i had one built by a local shop.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I installed a 302 and big bell C-4 in my 1966 Mustang Coupe as one assembly. ( the engine and trans bolted together) . I have a cherry picker and a adjustable bar to tilt the engine. It will go if you stand "it on its end" . You have to really tilt the engine .
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The 11" TCI I used for a few years worked great in a very similar combination. I still hear good and bad about TCI. Most of my experience has been good, but the first 10" Super Street Fighter converter I got had to be returned because of bad splines in the converter.
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The spline issue was the problem I had with my TCI as well. I would use one again, I just like the Dynamic units because they are 20 minutes from my house. Tim.
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pa makes good ones
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