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Old 07-24-2007, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

I want to add a Traction-Lok assy to the currently open diff in my 2007 Crown Vic LX Sport.
The car has both ABS and Traction Control.
I've heard conflicting reports as to if adding the TL will mess up my ABS or Traction Control.
Anyone know if this is true?
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

Im no expert on this, so be warned...

ABS and TC only actuate the brakes to control tire slip. On the Ford axles I have seen, all of the sensors related to those systems are on the ends of the axle and integrated into the brake assembly.

I think that the rear end is still just based off of a standard 8.8, I can't see how adding a TL will negetively affect the ABS or TC systems. Afterall, aren't there Crown Vics that come from the factory with TL, ABS and TC?
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See, that's the thing. I don't think I've ever seen a Crown Vic with all three (ABS, TL, and TC.).
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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

mustangs do come with that stuff dont they? I know they all have ABS and TC and i am sure at least some of them have TL
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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

Police Car?
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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

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Police Car?
What about it ?
Not sure if they have traction control.

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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

It's really no problem putting one in, I've done it in a '96 Crown Vic police car with O.E. TC & ABS. The '07 should still be a 28 spline, I'm unsure though. I got a used carrier from the JY, from an '88 CV heavy duty, (you can tell if it a HD by it having a "P72" in the vin #, "P71" is the police package designation for '92-up, "P72" is still the HD designation) and rebuilt it with new clutches, bearings, and races. Do you know how to tell if it is a trac-lok without pulling the cover? If not, spin one tire, and if the other wheel spins the same way, you have a Trac-Lok, tags can sometimes be wrong! I restacked the clutches in the way that 2 extra clutches were used, instead of f-ss-f-ss-f, I stacked them f-s-f-s-f-s-f on both sides, and it bites pretty hard. If you do this, and you rebuild it, get 2 bottles of Ford friction modifier, 1 to soak the clutches, and 1 full bottle to put in the rear-end. For a gasket, don't use a gasket! I work at Ford and we use the RTV for 7.3L diesels, and it seals up every time. I bought several tubes throughout the years to use at home. Plus, it comes in a caulking gun cartridge, so it is super easy to use. I'd recommend using the recommended synthetic 75W-140 oil, but the Ford stuff is $22.00 a quart!, I use Royal Purple 75W-140 for $9.00-$10.00 a quart and is also full synthetic.

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I hope this gets you started, Chris.
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have you checked out police package parts?
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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

Thanks Chris
One thing I know is that '05+ use 31 spline axles.
I've asked this question on a couple other forums I visit and response is running about 60/40 in favor of adding a Trac-Loc.
I have a trusted Ford parts guy and he asked a tech at his dealership. He said adding a TL would mess up the signal to the traction control and possibly the ABS.

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I've got 2 years on the '96 CV that I put TL in, it actually assists the TC on the '96, and the ABS works spot on everytime. The only problem with the ABS this car has had, was metal shavings from the front brakes getting on the sensor magnets, thus shielding the magnetic field. After cleaning the magnets, there have been zero problems.

However, if you are still interested in TL, you can ger a carrier from a '98-up Explorer since they have a 31 spline count, and simlpy remove the tone ring if you wish. But, as stated above, most Mustangs have TC, ABS, and TL working together in conjunction.

Though I don't see how it would mess up the signal to the ABS, since the TL is just helping the TC in this application.

Although, I'm just a tech at a Ford dealership, I guess I'm wrong.
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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

Why get a carrier from an Explorer?
Can't I just buy the Traction-Lok assy, inst kit, friction modifyer, and lube and have it installed into my existing carrier?.
No offense meant, it's just that as far as Ford techs go, right now it's 50/50 as to if this is doable.
Since this is a new car, I really don't want to mess with any of the existing systems.
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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

The carrier IS the the Trac-Lok assy. It houses the spiders, clutches, etc, and has the ring gear attached.

Are you thinking I'm referring to the rear axle HOUSING?

Also, the reason I said Explorer is because it comes with 31 spline side gears already.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Taction-Lok in New Crown Vic

Yup, I was thinking you meant the housing.
This looks like something that may be doable.
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