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Old 07-04-2008, 04:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I took my car in yesterday for an estimate to get it painted, and the guy giving the estimate said it would be $6000 - $8000!!! It's a localy owned shop which I chose because it's close to home and has a good reputation, but that seems WAY too high for what I'm looking for.

Any comments on what a decent paint job should cost? I admit there's a few extras like prepping the fiberglass hood and some fender alignment, but I'm just looking for some good paint to cover what I think of as a street/strip car.
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I just went through this a while back. Yes, everyone I talked with wanted between 3500 and 10,000. I realize it's a lot of work but there ain't no way on earth that painting a car is worth $3500. Maybe a show quality job but not the type of work I was needing.

So I did it myself at home. Screw those greedy body shop guys. I did it here in my 2 car garage for $450 TOTAL. That's the cost of the supplies. The labor was basically free. And I think it came out damn good considering that it's a home grown paint job. Don't get me wrong, it is a TON of work. I have a lot of respect for the body shop guys who do this kind of work on a daily basis. I would never want to do it every day! But I learned a lot by doing it by myself at the house...yes I made mistakes and no it's nowhere near perfect but I didn't expect it to be a perfect job. It's a race car--it doesn't have to be perfect because it's going to get beat up anyway!
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I just went through this a while back. Yes, everyone I talked with wanted between 3500 and 10,000. I realize it's a lot of work but there ain't no way on earth that painting a car is worth $3500. Maybe a show quality job but not the type of work I was needing.

So I did it myself at home. Screw those greedy body shop guys. I did it here in my 2 car garage for $450 TOTAL. That's the cost of the supplies. The labor was basically free. And I think it came out damn good considering that it's a home grown paint job. Don't get me wrong, it is a TON of work. I have a lot of respect for the body shop guys who do this kind of work on a daily basis. I would never want to do it every day! But I learned a lot by doing it by myself at the house...yes I made mistakes and no it's nowhere near perfect but I didn't expect it to be a perfect job. It's a race car--it doesn't have to be perfect because it's going to get beat up anyway!
Looks good from here but you forgot to paint the trunk!
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The problem with body shops is that they are body shops that paint cars when they have to so their expertise is in the body work. Try a place that painting cars is their primary duty. Now don't laugh, but try Macco. I have had two cars done there, a Spirit GT and a Falcon. I did the body work and prep work (removed all of the chrome and windows) so that helped also. But they do body work as well. Then I waited until they put thier Presidential paint job on sale, usually in February and October. Both cars came out great and for a base price of $299.95 you can't beat it. I had the door jambs done at $75.00 each.

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Old 07-04-2008, 08:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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"estimate said it would be $6000 - $8000!!!" Did he offer to kiss ya first, Reach around? That is outragous,,, Up to 4K maybe but 6K to 8K that is just all out robbery,, See if you can do a lot of that prep yourself,, It will save some money,, Or do what I did and learn to do it yourself,, Took a while and alot of reading and questions, I Screwed up the first job and had to redo it and still spent under 1000$
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I went to a place similar to Maaco (EconoPaint), and ended up paying about $900. It was Dupont Urethane paint.. had them paint the door jambs and the trunk and do a little bit of body work (drip rail cleanup primarily). It was a decent enough paint job but he had to do it twice. First time had major runs. I had to wait about 45 days to get it redone. Overall it's a decent paintjob, but their attention to detail was severely lacking (overspray on my exhaust system, frame etc)... Took alot of work to clean it back up.

I wasn't looking for a high dollar show car paint job, but one that I could take to the local shows around here. It fits that bill.

From what you're describing, I think a trip to Maaco or a similar place and maybe getting their high end job (which is what mine was), would be the choice.

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Old 07-04-2008, 09:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Finally a post in MY world of expertise

OK, DF, The quote that guy gave you was simply REDICULOUS...
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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iy all depends on what quality of work you want i know where i work all that all we do is higher show car stuff everything sanded flat and buffed and for body and paint it would probably start at 10,000 but its all in the details what brand of paint you want how nice the gaps are how stright it is it all takes hours and at $40+ an hour it can add up fast if its just a driver shop around to different shops tell them what you want and do what you can yourself body work is one of those thing where you can or cant and if you cant it will look horrible when the paint is laid down

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Old 07-04-2008, 12:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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$3500 to $10k is reasonable for a paint job. I used to work in a body shop right after highschool (late 80s) and have seen what it takes. Basically you are getting a perfect paint job. Major attention to details, the works. I have also taken a 85 Z28 to MAACO and have them shoot it, tipped the painter dude $50 cash to do it right and it looked very good, just the paint was VERY thin. That ran me like $500. Was it perfect? No. I have spent the $3500 on a paint job once before. Was it perfect. OMFG Yes. So there ya go. It all depends on what type of paint job ya want... restoration with the interior painted, door jambs, everything lined up perfect, not a single wave or scratch see your self in it lke a mirror 3" paint job.... $3500-$10k. Want a decent paint job that looks good maybe a 1-3 footer... MAACO or the likes and spend $1k. Easy decision. It all depends on what ya want.
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A paint job is only as good as what's underneath....

do the prep work yourself. paint the interior, jambs, under the hood...you can do all that at home. Then pay a painter to spray the exterior and cut it.

I've spent $1000 in teh past JUST to have a shop shoot, cut, buff and it was an awesome job. IF I'd have paid them to do all the prep, it would have easily gone way over $10 large.

There is a shop just a few blocks from here...I know the owner, but he doesn't do shotty work. He won't do it unless it's done "right"...so he wouldn't do my Maverick. But there is a '65 fastback there that is still being worked on...the owner's already tied up $24,200 in body work alone. The body is immaculate (a thousand times better than new) but that is just overkill.

Bottom line, you CAN do some stuff at home if you have the right stuff and use your head. I had a '72 Impala painted at Earl Scheib many moons ago...we did all the prep and sanding, and it came out GREAT. Just assume that ALL they are going to do is an exterior spray only, they do not mask anything but windows and sometimes the tires/wheels. So put on some junk wheels/tires before you tote it to the shop. Makes their job a little easier and your bill slightly cheaper.
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I can see $3,000 to $4,500 for a FANTASTIC paint job.


But this $10,000 stuff is PURE BULLSCHITT.

I FRIKIN DO this stuff. Not back the the 1980's but NOW.

Someone is STEALING from you if you pay $6,000 just to paint your damn car.

It only takes about 40 hours to do a smack down bang up job on a little old mustng, and your car will look as good if not better than any fuctard with a $10,000 dollar paintjob.

I get FUMING HOT when I hear crap like this.

Some retard paid $40K for a Shelby paint job up near Seattle. EVERYONE I know that looked at teh sumbich said it didn't look no better than what I put on my sister's 66 mustang when I restored that car... And that was a 40 hour prep ($2,200 labor $900 material) paint job. Grand total on the paint and body was less than $4K

So screw them damn theiving shops

This I'm talking about is a no rust and only a wrinkle here and there paint job.


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well we did a 68 super bee hear a little while back had the car for alomst a year we waited around alot for parts but we probabaly replaced 75% with no exaduration of the car sheet metal the entire underside was body worked and sprayed yellow to match al lthe graphics were painted burried in clear so you can see or feel the edges it was blocked perfectly straight and had probabaly 60+ hours of cut and buff time and it was in the 40,000+ range thats what people want and im sure most people when you start looking can tell the difference between a $3,000 and a $10,000 paint job i know i could when you look down the side and its got more waves then the ocean thats not quality anyone can do that. you can walk around a show and point out the nice work from the not so nice work if i was sepnding money on paint and body i would look around at shoes and ask people who did the work for them and when you find the quality and price you like try to work something out its all in the details
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WHat you did above is a restoration and heavily modified paint job, which is almost restoring a car, not just painting it.

There is NO reason to charge $6,000 to paint a car UNLESS you charge $75 bucks per hour and take 80 hours to do it...
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DF what is your location? I can beat that price any day of the week with great results. .................... Sean Walker PPG and DuPont certified.
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WHat you did above is a restoration and heavily modified paint job, which is almost restoring a car, not just painting it.

There is NO reason to charge $6,000 to paint a car UNLESS you charge $75 bucks per hour and take 80 hours to do it...

I did a paint course through a community college that was part of a Toyota collision repair program. Its not uncommon for painters to make in excess of $75 per hour granted they aren't working all the time. The guys who are good go off to BMW or Mercedes and are paid to attend their training get paid a lot more.

The cheap way take a paint course at a community college. They usually have a special projects section, then you only pay for supplies. It's a lot of work to paint a car, repairing a paint job I think is a bigger b#$ch though.
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