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Old 11-06-2008, 06:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Powerglide To My 351w

i have a 92 fox body
i am going to install a powerglide ransmission , what issues am i going to run into ?

bellhousing ? starter ? flywheel ?

the motor is a 351w based dart block 438 cu with 750-775 hp at the flywheel i will be adding a 300 shot
7200-7400 rpm shifts

moser 33 spline / full spool 3:73 gear ratio
2800 lbs
28.5 x 9 slick

this will be mainly set up for 1/8 mi

i see that there are alot of planetry gear options avail. which would you recommend with my set up
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Powerglide To My 351w

well i know my bro (mavman) has one in his maverick behind a windsor based motor also, dad runs one too behind a 347 both on alchohol and both used a JW bellhousing and flywheel, think its a 164 tooth design that uses a stock style starter for a ford small block, thing goes in as easy as any other trans, also they use a turbo spline input i reckon for more choices in torque covertors, you might pm him and ask him more about it, its been a few years since i've been around all of it
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Powerglide To My 351w

I like the PA pro-fit bell. Its pretty versatile in that it will fit all SBF's with a 6 bolt pattern, is drilled for 157 and 164 stock starters and has adapter rings available for most trans'.... so if you decide in the future that you want an extra gear, change the combination or whatever all you need is a new ring.
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well i know my bro (mavman) has one in his maverick behind a windsor based motor also, dad runs one too behind a 347 both on alchohol and both used a JW bellhousing and flywheel, think its a 164 tooth design that uses a stock style starter for a ford small block, thing goes in as easy as any other trans, also they use a turbo spline input i reckon for more choices in torque covertors, you might pm him and ask him more about it, its been a few years since i've been around all of it


yes I run one. JW ultra-bell on mine, along with a JW flexplate. Those two parts are stout pieces. Pricey, but strong. No issues whatsoever. It's a simple deal. Cut the OE bellhousing off of the case and fit the JW onto the pump and bolt it down. Make sure to use loctite on the bolts. I also use a stock starter.

As for the trans itself, with as much power as you're planning on, I'd go with a 1.80 straight cut gear. Factory 1.76's are strong but at that power level (over 1000) they'll probably break eventually. Especially in a heavier door car. The lighter the car the less strain on the driveline components. dual ring servo, good band, good valve body and an overhaul and it's good to about 1000 HP if it's set up right....and Powerglides are REALLY easy to build. Are you going to use a transbrake? If so, it's a good idea to increase the number of clutches in the reverse pack to AT LEAST 5. 6-8 would be better and last longer. Some come with 3 from the factory, most are 4. I run 2 in a footbrake only setup. Just can't touch the throttle in reverse. But it has a little less drag. I also run a turbo spline input for more converter selection. I think the turbo splines are becoming the standard for powerglides these days. I also bought an aftermarket pump that was already machined for the input-it wasn't expensive ($125). Mine has held up great. About 800 passes with not even a fluid change, about 700 HP in a 2500 lb car. The 'glide was probably the best mod I have ever done. The C4 is a good transmission but the glide is faster and more consistent. More expensive too, but well worth it!

The only issue I ever had was one time I left the snap ring out of the reverse pack and when I'd put it in reverse, it'd lock the pack against the carrier--locking up the transmission. My own stupid mistake. Last weekend I ran it up on a transbrake a time or two in the pits and it rocked forward a little-but that is to be expected with only 2 clutches in the reverse pack. Converter went 6200 without the low chip. Datalog shows footbrake flash stall at 5900.
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Re: Powerglide To My 351w

Guys,thanks For The Input
I Will Be Using A Transbrake And I Am Also Looking For A Little Help On Stahl Selection I Thing 5k Or So ??
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Call a converter specialist. Stall speed is the least of your worries. There is also stator design, fin angle, diameter, pump to turbine clearance, etc. Theres literally thousands of people out there who are much better at choosing converters because that is what they do. Pick your favorite. I use a local guy myself.

Don't skimp one bit on the converter because with a Powerglide, converter selection is absolutely CRUCIAL. Too low and you lost a couple tenths. Too high and it'll blow through it. Non-aggressive stator and it will leave like a dog but have great top end (usually). Too aggressive and it'll break parts plus have low MPH. Then you have sprag type or spragless. Spragless is nice for a bracket car where you can afford to lose a few mph. They're great for 1/8 mile. I don't really like spragless converters but that is just me.
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