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Old 11-27-2010, 02:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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When you install the brake back plate it will take up the space. Normally that space is about .150".
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Ford 9" - Big Bearing - Old style

So I'll try this with a little more detail.

1. So I have these 31 spline Strange axles with a bearing with the seal built in.



2. When I insert them into my old housing and now again into my new housing...they stick out slightly where I would expect them to be flush.




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3. I don't use drum brakes, but I do use disc brakes which have 2 piece backing plates and work surprisingly a lot like axle retainers


4. And I end up with a gap...which is hard to see because of a crummy angle.




A gap I never had with my 28 spline axles and standard bearings where I used a second separate seal in the tube. Am I only one who has these crazy problems?
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:40 PM   #18 (permalink)
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do you recall what brands bearings you are running?
When I bought the axles I had Moser assemble them with "their" bearings. I have no idea of who makes them.

My brother has 35 spline Strange axles in a 59' rear and the bearings that they included worked fine.




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4. And I end up with a gap...which is hard to see because of a crummy angle.
Confused on how you have a gap after installing a 1/4" or so spacer when you were only off by .150 or so before without the spacer?
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Re: Ford 9" - Big Bearing - Old style

Its a bad angle. The black brackets aren't a spacer...they ride and capture the shoulder of the bearing the same way the standard retainer does. There is a .150 gap remaining in that photo. Just like where i am holding up half brake backing plate against it with my old rusting housing in the photo.
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Re: Ford 9" - Big Bearing - Old style

So the bracket does not have any relief cut into it for the large outer diameter of the bearing? Cutting one sounds like the easiest fix.

Are the axles splines engaged sufficiently into the carrier?
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Re: Ford 9" - Big Bearing - Old style

I had thought about cutting the bracket so it no longer worked like an axle retainer. This is a photo of a bracket half section sitting as it would mount stock with my problem.




If I cut it then the thickness of the bracket is way too thick and the axle retainer couldn't mount



It looks like I will have to continue to live with my small spacer. I got cold today....so I will stare at it a few more hours tomorrow. But yes the axle seats fully, has full spline engagement and is not bottomed out into the carrier either.
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Re: Ford 9" - Big Bearing - Old style

Those brackets look like SSBC two piece. The newer ones have a .145" relief cut into them. My small bearing sticks out .150".
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Re: Ford 9" - Big Bearing - Old style

Yes they are the SSBC brackets.

1 more photo.

In order for me to tighten everything up and use my SSBC disc brakes....I have to install a spacer between the SSBC brakes bracket and the housing because I have physical parts of my bearing (not the shoulder the axle retaining clip holds on to) protruding from the housing. Apparently this is because of the way the backing plates for drum brakes would have mounted? The SSBC backing plates work exactly like an axle retainer plate making the axle retaining plate extraneous. I could cut if off but I have been too lazy too.

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