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Old 01-05-2012, 01:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ignition cylinder lock removal - 98 Taurus

The ignition key tumbler locked up on our 98 Taurus and I'm having a heck of time getting it out. I looked up instructions on line, and asked local people, all of which confirmed what I thought was the procedure. I inserted a pin punch into the hole on the under side, to release the little detent lock, and the blinkin' thing won't pry out. I've removed the plastic cover from the underside of the steering column, so I can see the release hole and metal casing, or structure, the cylinder fits into. For the life of me I can't see any other release mechanism obvious hang-up points. I even had some big channel locks on there to try and pull and wiggle the sucker out.

Does anyone have any tips, or tricks for removing difficult key cylinders?

Dynamite may be a solution, because the car is pretty useless with a broken ignition lock.
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That sounds the same as for the 95 Mustang. I had a bear of a time with it because the thing you are trying to push in with the punch is very hard to find because you cannot see where the punch is going. You already know this but here goes anyway ...

It is the little round pin-like thing sticking out of the side here near the end of the cylinder. It is spring loaded and latches into a small hole just barely bigger than the pin. There is a small hole on the side you are coming from, so the end of the punch you use has to be pretty small to fit through that hole and press the pin far enough to release it.

IIRC, I used an awl. The end is small enough to fit in the hole, and it is strong enough to break the friction and push the pin in. But it is a pain finding the hole basically blind.



Does the pin go in when you press it? If so, the the cylinder is probably just frozen in there from age. If not, then maybe the key needs to be in a certain position in order to press the pin in.
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wheel must be removed , key in , turn key , push pin down
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I've got the pin pushed in. I took off the plastic cover, exposing the underside of the steering column, so I can see the cylinder housing and the release pin hole. I can get under and look up into the pin hole. I've tried it with the key in and out. Turning the key is not an option as that is why the cylinder needs to come out, the cylinder is locked up, or frozen, and will not turn.

The instructions from eHow are pretty straight forward:
1. Insert pin punch into the pin access hole directly underneath the ignition cylinder.
2. Push pin all the way into the pin hole.
3. Wedge flat head screwdriver behind the ignition cylinder and pry the ignition cylinder out.
4. Insert a new ignition cylinder. Press the cylinder into the steering column until you hear it click. Turn the ignition key to the "II" position to confirm that the cylinder lock is functioning normally.

A couple years ago I replaced the ignition cylinder on my 88 F150 and it went quite easy, so I expected this one to go just as well. Grrrr.
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Turning the key is not an option as that is why the cylinder needs to come out, the cylinder is locked up, or frozen, and will not turn.
You have to have the cylinder in the "on" position in order for it to come out. If you can't turn the key, you'll need another method of removal instead of the standard version that everyone has been telling you. I recommend one a BFH.
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I have a later model Taurus . Now I'll have to take a look at it .

Know with mine you need the coded key , won't start with just a copy
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You have to have the cylinder in the "on" position in order for it to come out. If you can't turn the key, you'll need another method of removal instead of the standard version that everyone has been telling you. I recommend one a BFH.

This is exactly right. The key must be in the on position or the lock cylinder will not come out. If you haven't destroyed the lock yet try putting the key in and tapping on the end of the key with a screwdriver handle. I've had pretty good luck with this method. I will sometimes free the sticky tumblers in the lock.

If you cannot turn the key you will need to extract the lock cylinder. I carefully drill them out in this case.
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can't fight city hall or info from other places on the net .
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Turning the key is not an option as that is why the cylinder needs to come out, the cylinder is locked up, or frozen, and will not turn.
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There is the problem right there (I have a tendency to state the obvious, don't I?)

The eHow instructions left out the part about turning the key so that the pin could be pushed in.

Since you can't turn the key, you're screwed. How about drilling the pin out from underneath? If you use a bit that is a little smaller than the pin, maybe it will compromise the pin enough to be able to get it out, without enlarging the hole the pin snaps into ... ?
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There is the problem right there (I have a tendency to state the obvious, don't I?)

The eHow instructions left out the part about turning the key so that the pin could be pushed in.

Since you can't turn the key, you're screwed. How about drilling the pin out from underneath? If you use a bit that is a little smaller than the pin, maybe it will compromise the pin enough to be able to get it out, without enlarging the hole the pin snaps into ... ?
Well that is just great news! I am able to push the pin in, even without turning the key, but obviously something is not fully releasing. I will try again this weekend, when I can work on it in the daylight. Fun, fun, fun.

Thanks everyone, for your thoughts. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Try a slide hammer.
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Try a slide hammer.
Wont work and will likely damage the column.

The pin that you're pushing on is hardened and if you try to drill it you will likely end up drilling into the column housing instead .

See the photo and the enlarged end opposite where the key goes in. That end must line up with the slot in the column before the cylinder will come out. Think skeleton key that must line up with the slot in the keyhole before it can be inserted or removed. Yours MUST have the cylinder in the on position before things line up to enable removal

I've done at least a dozen of these and the best way I know is to tap the end of the key and pray that it turns. If not then you drill.. You start with small drill bits and work your way to larger ones. Drill right into where the key goes in. You must drill until the tumblers in the lock come out allowing it to be turned with a screwdriver. Be careful not to drill into the column.

Think about it, they make it difficult to extract the lock for a reason.





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check with a locksmith that does coded auto keys . Damaged key might not be able to give code . find out first . code need for start and can't retireve it , then it will be costly for him to come to get it from the PCM/Module

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Have you tried any kind of lube? PB/WD and jiggle the key around a little. Just something to get a stuck tumbler to pop into place.
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Blow torch?
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