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Old 09-29-2012, 12:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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#8 plug leaner than the others?

I recently switched from a old Weiand 8011 to an Eddy Performer RPM. I've done three or four spark plug checks since the switch. 7 plugs are the nice light chocolate milk color, and #8 plug is almost white still. Is this normal for a Performer RPM, or do I maybe have another issue somewhere?
Engine is a 1969 302 block with 1970 port and polished with 1.94 intake and 1.6 exhaust valves. Compression is 9.3 to 1, and the cam is a Comp Cams 274 hydraulic flat tappet. Carb is a 600 vacuum secondary Holley.
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

swap plugs around or new plug and check the wire is the first test

klutz , you got the answer ? could it a vacuum leak klutz ? or , or
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

I swap plugs to a different cylinder after each check, and the #8 always comes out more white. Same thing if I put new plugs in. I haven't found any vacuum leaks.
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

this a 15426378 order ? if so make sure 7 & 8 wires are not close to each other
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

Swap that #8 Wire with the #4 wire and re-run. If you still have a white plug later check or intake gasket interference or a leak in the gasket over #8.
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

i had the same prob with my windsor.the white header paint burned off no 4 and 2 header pipes.i changed carbs and that fixed it.very weird.i also checked for vaccume leasks with a propane torch.without lighing torch open valve and go around intake carb and carb spacer
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Swap that #8 Wire with the #4 wire and re-run. If you still have a white plug later check or intake gasket interference or a leak in the gasket over #8.
Changed all of the plug wires a couple weeks ago Gary, and still doing it. I will try looking for vacuum leaks again. If I don't find any, I'll try changing the Holley for a Summit 600 CFM carb.
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

Vacuum leak is the most likely cause. Ten dollar vacuum gauge will find it (along with propane method also described).

If the ignition was bad (plug/wire) the plug would read fuel fouled.

It may also be a distribution problem either in the carb or intake plenum. As a last resort, you would fatten the primary jet (1) that feeds the plenum side that supplies #8.

THEXTON THX382 Vacuum Leak Detector Wand-

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Vacuum leak is the most likely cause. Ten dollar vacuum gauge will find it (along with propane method also described).

If the ignition was bad (plug/wire) the plug would read fuel fouled.

It may also be a distribution problem either in the carb or intake plenum. As a last resort, you would fatten the primary jet (1) that feeds the plenum side that supplies #8.

THEXTON THX382 Vacuum Leak Detector Wand-

klutz heres a hint , know why the chair your butt and hand is sitting on isnt burnt black ?
there never was a fire , so its still the same color
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

I also have a slight "sputter" at cruise speed that may be related. I did three things roughly at the same time a couple weeks ago. I adjusted the valves (roller rockers), I changed plug wires, and I swapped carbs. I'm thinking the "sputter" and the whitish plug on #8 may be related and caused by the #8 valves not adjusted properly. I was adjusting valves while also trying to watch my kids, so I was interrupted several times and may have done that cylinder wrong. You know how it goes if you have or had little kids. Daddy, I'm thirsty, Daddy I'm hungry, Daddy, I have an owwee. Then you try to pick back up and think "were was I?" I wouldn't trade my kids for the world, but they can be frustrating when you are trying to concentrate or they take a hammer and pound the bumper on your Cobra Jet Mach 1. Lol
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Might be you're onto something! Get it took care if dag nabbit!
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

Do you have a vacuum tee at the back of the manifold?

Keep in mind vacuum leaks aren't always external or near the intake\carb. Any one of the vacuum lines off of a tee or the components they connect to can create vacuum leaks. Leaking brake booster diaphragm, heater controls, trans modulator......
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Re: #8 plug leaner than the others?

Great point Lakr!!!! A vacuum leak in a Vacuum T over runner #8 would provide a plenty lean signal to that cylinder!
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I also have a slight "sputter" at cruise speed that may be related.
Another indication of a vacuum leak, lean surge.
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Another indication of a vacuum leak, lean surge.
a sputter and a surge is the same ?
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