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11-14-2006, 07:15 PM
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Best Core to start with?
Looking for a core to start my rebuild project and trying to figure out which vehicle to look for.
I'd like a C5 (for the better oiling) case fill (for header clearance). I read somewhere in this forum about 82 (?) up having harden shafts.
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11-14-2006, 07:40 PM
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Best Core to start with?
I like the C5's hardened shafts, oiling , forward drum can hold 5 firctions easy.
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11-14-2006, 08:03 PM
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Best Core to start with?
Yeah I want a C5 but what vehicles are the best to find what I'm looking for?
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11-15-2006, 03:31 PM
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Best Core to start with?
C5's 81 thru think 86 on some cars and trucks.
Look for 81-85 t-birds or cougars v6 or v8's
I think bronco's and some vans had them also.
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1966 Stang Coupe Org. 6 cyl. 351w,Sealed Power Hypers, ARP bolts,Total Seal rings,Eagle H-beams rods,Balanced,Hedman long tubes, Pro Comp 2.05/1.60 Heads, Shaft roller Rockers, Victor Jr intake, Holley 750 DP, Ed Nix Custom .600/.600 254/258 @.050 Solid Cam, Crane solid roller lifters,Richmond 4.11, Strange mini spool, Modified C4, 3500 stall, Redneck Transbrake, B&M Hammer shifter, Shelby lowered, Pro Comp 6Al system. Mickey Thompson 275/50 Et Street Drag radials.
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11-15-2006, 04:47 PM
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Some info...
1982 Mercury Cougar Station Wagon
1983 mercury cougar; 3-speed automatic (C5) - standard equipment & 4-speed overdrive automatic (AOD) - optional on V6, standard on V8
1984 mercury cougar; 3-speed automatic (C5) & 4-speed overdrive automatic (AOD) & 5-speed manual (T-5; XR7 only)
1985 mercury cougar; 3-speed automatic (C5) & 4-speed overdrive automatic (AOD) & 5-speed manual (T-5; XR7 only)
1986 mercury cougar(SEFI); 3-speed automatic (C5) & 4-speed overdrive automatic (AOD) & 5-speed manual (T-5; XR7 only)
1987 mercury cougar; 4-speed overdrive automatic (AOD)
1980 Ford Thunderbird
1981 Thunderbird
1982 Ford Thunderbird
1983 Ford Thunderbird
1984 Ford Thunderbird
1985 Ford Thunderbird
1986 Ford Thunderbird
1983-86 Bronco II; can't find C5 info...
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: MisterN on 11/16/06 7:48am ]</font>
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11-15-2006, 09:35 PM
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Best Core to start with?
83/84 on the B2's
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11-16-2006, 09:02 AM
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Full and mid-size cars with 302 and 351W but make sure they don't have the FMX (cast iron case - aluminum bell and tail housings).
I like the pan fill with the case mount bell housing but there are clearance problems on some cars and with headers with the case mount bells. There is the added expense of the new valve body, converter and bell housing to make the C5 into a C4. aside from those pieces if you get a C5 from most any full size car it will have the five clutch drums and will take less internal mods to make it a durable transmission.
What are you planning to put in front of it? How much HP will be under the control of the tranny?
Paul
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11-18-2006, 07:20 AM
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Great info guys, Thanks! This will save me alot of time.
This will be going behind a 302 stroked to 331 (380 RWHP/380 RWTQ) in a 1993 Mustang that I run in SCCA "C" Prepared autocross events. Future engine upgrades to be competitive will require 600+HP so I plan to build the tranny with that in mind to some extend as funds allow.
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11-18-2006, 08:21 AM
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Keep in mind that theres really nothing that the C5 case has that the C4 case cant me modified to do in 20 minutes. If you have a good C4 case dont give it up to pay for a C5.
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11-18-2006, 12:16 PM
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OK got my core today out of a 86' T'Bird. Tag ID # E5SP-CA
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11-19-2006, 04:05 AM
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Good choice! Now all you need is a good stock overhaul kit, a TransGo -2 kit, a 72 or later valve body, a big transmission cooler, C4 converter and a bell housing to match. The standard parts are easily good for 400 HP so you have no worries.
Paul
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11-19-2006, 06:06 AM
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it came off a V6. is it a lockup one?? youll be able to tell when you pull the pan
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11-19-2006, 07:22 AM
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Quote:
On 2006-11-19 06:06, 64 TBOLT wrote:
it came off a V6. is it a lockup one?? youll be able to tell when you pull the pan
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If it is, any the converter worked... I coulding find a converter so it might be a part someone else wants. Don't junk the converter right away, if it'a lockup type.
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11-19-2006, 08:05 AM
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How do I tell if it's a lockup convertor?
Do I need to dig it out of the garage trash?
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11-19-2006, 08:29 AM
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did you pull the pan??? hang on to the converter for now
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