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Old 02-17-2008, 02:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

If you are reading this article you are like me. You don't have the extra cash or you are too cheap to spend the extra money for stainless steel, ceramic coated, or any type of professional coating.



My budget did not allow for much. So I bought the Summit painted headers for $149.99 turns out they send you the pacesetter ones that would have cost me $220.99.
The paint that comes on the headers is not a high temp paint so it will burn off if not cared for. I picked up Dupli Color’s High Heat with Ceramic that’s good up to 1200 degrees if properly applied. It is $5.50 a can and if you are doing small block shorties like me one can is enough.

Before getting started check your headers for any defects, if they are used sandblast them and spray them with a high temp primer first. My headers were new so I skipped this step.
Start by scuffing up the surface of the header with a scotch-bite pad (I also sanded out the runs in the paint)
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Now that the headers are scuffed up they need to be cleaned before they can get painted use soapy water for this step. I wiped mine down with damp paper towels because I had no grease to remove. Make sure to dry the headers thoroughly.
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I made some hooks to hang the header on for painting and baking. Any wire coat hanger will work.
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I have an extra oven that I don’t care about so I had no issues painting the headers attached to the rack. I positioned the headers so I could get full paint coverage while still allowing them to fit in the oven without having to move them around.
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Painting a light first coat helps the paint stick better. I painted mine in a makeshift spray booth that only has 2 sides. I would suggest doing this outside, but when it is -20 degrees, painting inside works better. Make sure you have a well ventilated area.
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After the paint has had 10 minutes to dry you can add a second light coat
Wait 10 minutes and apply a thick final coat.
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Bake them for 2 hours at 400 degrees and allow for cooling before handling (ventilation is a must, use an outside oven if possible)

Take them out and enjoy.
Finished Headers

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Old 02-17-2008, 11:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

i like! good job. will that paint stay silver after starting the engine? i have an oven just for that! thanks alot i will use your tech tip!
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

can u do this in my moms oven lol cuz thats all i have and she is gone most the time could i pull this off lol without getting to messy
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

Awsome Biglaw 22!

I may have to give this a try... Looks like they turned out great
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

I personally have not run a car with them, but a buddy of mine did his and they are still silver after 2 years. If you do not bake them they will discolor/peal in a couple months! so the baking is what makes the high temp paint cure properly. I got the High Heat stuff thats good to 1200 degrees, not the 500 degree stuff.

As this is a "how to" you can not hold me accountable for your actions, or outcomes.

I will say that you can hang them in the oven with out getting paint anywhere. I would say go for it read the label on the can you can bake them at a lower temperature too. Either way make sure you have the area well ventilated and you set the oven to clean once you are done.

If your doing a Big block shorties you will have to bake them one at a time.
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

Great article. I never thought shorties would fit in an oven. Let us know how they hold up.
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

i dont think longtubes would fit in my oven plus my mom wouldnt be too happy
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

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i dont think longtubes would fit in my oven plus my mom wouldnt be too happy
You and me both...only for me it's the wife lol.

Also, that looks like one large oven =).
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is our oven opened or closed through this process. looks nice. I honestly think this is the only difference that the manufactures of these type headers have. Material is pretty much the same even in a can.
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

I had the oven closed and let them bake at 400 degrees. The oven looks big because the bottom element broke so I removed it, that seems to add some space. Other than that it is a standard oven, but after checking, it has more space on the inside than my new one that fit in the same spot.

The oven can fit Some shortie Buick headers for a 455 (one at a time mind you) thats in my budies Riviera Hear is a comparison of size

Ford 289/302 Header vs. Buick 455 Header

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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

I used the same paint on an edelbrock intake about 3-4 years ago. I put it in my bbq grill for a couple hours, 3+years later it looks just as good as jet-hot coating.
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

I love it, because I will probably make my own long tubes. Speaking of...

...anyone have any ideas how to bake long tubes?
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

Find a company with a commercial oven or rent one of those big grills (Hog roaster) from your local rental place they should be at least 4 feet long and 2 feet deep some use propane too.
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

Hey good article. And daammm those look nice!

One question... You mentioned that the paint that comes from the manufacture isn't a hi temp paint, and i agree. Seen many a header lose the paint in a matter of days.

However your saying to just scuff the paint and then paint over it with the high temp good stuff. If the paint underneath the good stuff wants to burn off, then what will the good paint stick to?? I'm thinking that the headers could've been stripped with paint stripper or even better, blasted with some sort of media. (Please note that these are just questions and I'm not anybodies authority on the subject)
I hope I'm wrong as i hate to see your hard work go to poop.

On another note, when i built my "Exhaust System" i used the VHT High temp 1300-2000 silica/ceramic aluminum and then "shot it" with my mapp gas blowtorch in an "even pattern" (um close enough??) after it dried to the touch. (managed to get the headers ceramic coated though$$$)
I then used the High temp clear over that then re-apply the torch to attempt to cure.

Have no idea how well this works yet though.

One thing to add. NEVER break your new FLAT TAPPET CAM in on fresh ceramic coated headers. ( so THEY say. ) Even though the ceramic coating is sprayed on with a flame gun they still expect a heating/cooling cycle once on the engine. The extreem heat thats generated while running your engine for .5 hour at 2500 to 3000 rpm can ruin the coating. expecially if your lean.
I would say the same for your well baked on ceramic Paint coating as well.
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Re: Coating headers with high temp ceramic paint.

Hey pinto, I agree with you completely, I asked myself why I was painting over the headers without removing the factory paint, but they came with a sticker that said "these headers should be coated with a high temp paint... will rust ..." I actually called pacesetter and the guy told me I could apply it right over it, using the directions from whatever spray I was using. I'll see what happens in spring.
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