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Old 02-23-2004, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford casting numbers, what engine do I have?

When I bought my car the guy told me it had a 390. The more I think about it the more I think it is a 352. Since they didn't make 390's for my year and I think the engine may be original. Can someone decipher this for me? The only number I could find was on the engine head.

C0AE 6090C

I believe the first part makes it a 60 Galaxie but I am not sure what 6090C stands for.

My car is a 60 Starliner.
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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6090 is the cylinder head. The block casting I.D. no (6015) should be found on the passenger side oil pan rail behind the starter motor.
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think the 6090C like the part of the engine, 6090 means the head. A way to tell if it's 352 or 390 is to look under the heat/temp sensor and it will say 390 under there, the other way is to measure the stroke. If someone doesn't reply I will see what the measurements are, i have them somewhere on this puter.

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I found the info on the measuring of the stroke. Jan aka Tbirdchick was the one that told me about looking under the sending unit to see if it says 390 or not. She can elaborate more on that part. Hope this helps.

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the easiest way to check the stroke without dis-assembly, is to pull the #1 plug, and turn the engine to top dead center, and stick something into the plug hole, and mark it. Possibly a pencil, or something plastic, like a straw. Then, turn the engine until that piston is all the way down, and mark the stick again, using the same reference point. Using a 15/16ths socket and a large ratchet wrench will turn your engine over fairly easily. Its easy to overshoot bottom dead center, since its not marked on the front damper, as is top dead center, so you may have to go around a few times, before you get it
exact. A 352 will measure 3 1/2, the 390, 3 3/4

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That part# is for a cyl. head from a 1960 352 passenger car
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Casting numbers work like this: C0-designates 1960 (D4-would be 1974, etc), A-full size passenger car, E-maybe someone else can tell us. So the heads were designed in 1960 for use on a full size passenger car. Ford would continue to use the prefix until they significantly changed the design, so its hard to say for sure they were on a 1960 to begin with.

With the FE engine, there is no way to tell based on block markings if it is a 390 or 352. You will have to measure the stroke (352=3.5", 390=3.78&quot. The intake and other parts may be specific to a 390, but unless you have owned it from new, you don't know if the short block was changed. FE casting numbers are notoriously misleading, especially when it comes to blocks.
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On 2004-02-24 08:24, jakengle wrote:
Casting numbers work like this: C0-designates 1960 (D4-would be 1974, etc), A-full size passenger car, E-maybe someone else can tell us. So the heads were designed in 1960 for use on a full size passenger car. Ford would continue to use the prefix until they significantly changed the design, so its hard to say for sure they were on a 1960 to begin with.
The 'E' means Engineering dept (which i take as engine part)I think but can't swear by it.

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With the FE engine, there is no way to tell based on block markings if it is a 390 or 352. You will have to measure the stroke (352=3.5", 390=3.78". The intake and other parts may be specific to a 390, but unless you have owned it from new, you don't know if the short block was changed. FE casting numbers are notoriously misleading, especially when it comes to blocks.
Well, this early in production...this statement is not quite true. In the later sixties yes. The 390 (4.05" bore x 3.78" stroke) was not introduced until 1961, although a 361 FE (4.05" x 3.5" (58/59 only years of production) was introduced in the 1958 EDSEL (and this block would have a different casting I.D. no. than the '61 390).

So one should readily be able to tell a early 352 block from a 390 block by casting nos.

The fourth character of a PN prefix will determine (usually) if it is an Engineering/Casting I.D. no. or a Service Part No.

B=Body
C=Chassis
E=Engine
F=Fuel
Y=FORD Service PN
Z=LINC-MERC Service PN

..and so on.

The PN suffix character(s) do not always indicate design changes. The suffix can identify left/right, front/rear, engine series or even finish of a part.


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