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Old 12-26-2005, 10:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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64 galaxie disk brake swap from 74 torino problems no adjustment

i did a disk brake swap on my 64 galaxie and used spindles from a 74 torino. everything else but spindles is new and all front end parts replaced. problem is all shims from upper a arm are removed and there is no more adjustment. anyone else have this problem and what are my options. cars ride height is great. did the spindels from t-birds or torinos have a different spindel shaft height or placement? if i have too im willing to go with an aftermarket set of disk brakes. who recommends what. all options appreciated. wearing the hell out of my tires for now!!!! thanks in advance. chad
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Old 12-26-2005, 03:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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64 galaxie disk brake swap from 74 torino problems no adjustment

Are the tires sticking out to far at the top?,when I put the 78 T bird spindles on my 65 they did the same but there was enough adjustment but in your case the shafts might need to be ground down some to allow the tire to set back enough. Jeff
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Old 12-26-2005, 04:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I read about someone having the same problem on another Galaxie list, Chad. Others claimed not to have the problem. I'm suspecting that the shaft placement on the later spindles is different. As soon as I get my '64 home from storage, I'll test fit a pair of 'Bird spindles and do some measuring to be certain. I want to be able to get at least 1/2 degree of negative camber over stock plus play with caster for better handling. So not being able to shim isn't gonna cut it for me.

As to kits, this one caught my eye awhile back:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...wItem&rd=1,1&item=8019139387

It uses late model Crown Vic rotors and '78-'80 fullsized Chevy calipers with the stock spindles. Has anybody bought this kit and what did they think of it?

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Old 12-26-2005, 04:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I had the same problem. I tried everything to get correct camber, including replacing the offset lower A arm shafts with straight shafts and couldn't get rid of too much positive camber. I ended up reinstalling my original spindles and installing a MP Disc Brake kit.
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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my tops seem to be in to far as the inside of the tires are wearing. i am hoping to go to the yard and take some measurements on some other applications to see if the spindle configurations are different. what seems to be wrong is the lower part of the spindle needs to get closer to the car.
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The TBird spindles are different, A friend of mine with a 59 Ford did the same thing, used torino spindles and had no adjustment, solved the problem by swapping in the TBird spindles.
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Which T-Bird spindles did he use????
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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77-79 TBird spindles. The mid sized version, don't quote me but I believe they are also found on the LTD II of the same years
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Is this a problem only for the '64 and later Galaxies? I know that the control arm shafts on the earlier ones were different and wondered if the Torino spindles work on those older ones?
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The mid sized TBird 77-79 spindles are a direct swap on the 59-64 Galaxies. Ford redesigned the suspension in 65 and I believe you have to use the disc brake setups that were available on the full size cars starting in 66.
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The mid sized TBird 77-79 spindles are a direct swap on the 59-64 Galaxies. Ford redesigned the suspension in 65 and I believe you have to use the disc brake setups that were available on the full size cars starting in 66.
Actually, any '68-up fullsized Ford, Torino, LTDII, '77-'79 T-Bird, Cougar or Ranchero disc spindle willl bolt up to any fullsized Ford from '60...I'm not familiar with '59s, to '67. The '66-'67's had 4 piston Kelsey-Hayes disc brakes which are almost impossible to buy parts for and big $$$ if you can.

After mulling on this camber problem for a few days, I wonder if there could be a difference in the steering axis inclination....the angle between the upper and lower ball joint holes to make up for the upper a-frames used on the various models. When I get a chance, I'll compare a '77-'79 T-Bird's spindle to my '63 or '64's.

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Old 12-28-2005, 11:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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64 galaxie disk brake swap from 74 torino problems no adjustment

OK Hold on a minute!!! First part of the discussion you stated that you had no more shims to take out and your tire were wearing poorly, second part you stated that the INSIDE of the tires were wearing I must be confused on this but I would think if you removed shims the wheel tends to tilt in and if you add shims the wheel should tilt out. Time you take her over to the "Linement Shop" and have them take "A Look See"
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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the 64 doesnt work like that. by removing shims the upper a arm actually moves outward.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Maybe ya got me on that, never actually aligned one other than toe. I have a pretty good bone yard close to me and will see if there are any t-birds available. I really need to check out the difference between the torino and t-bird spindles and see if there is any difference and then get the info posted.
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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sounds good and i will do the same as soon as i get out to the yard. lets all compound our info on this thread and see what we get. ill be a couple days or maybe a week but let me know what you find. could be interesting.
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