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Old 12-06-2006, 08:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This is an excerpt from SUPER FORD MAGAZINE dated February 1982. It is contained in an article on the introduction of the 63 1/2 GALAXY.

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It was the ATLANTA 500 in the spring of 1962 when it became apparent FORD was playing the NASCAR game for keeps. Fred Lorenzen won the rain shortened Atlanta 500 with one of three specialty prepared 1962 GALAXY convertibles that had been fitted with a '61 FORD STARLINER roof by HOLMAN-MOODY of Charlotte, NC. Protests sprang up immediately as the sleek new GALAXIE proved to be more than a match for the GM and MOPAR teams. FORD argued that the cars were legal because the fastback roof style was offered as a kit which carrier a legitimate FORD part number, and it would soon be made available to the general public.

Also, HOLMAN-MOODY had two complete kits to back up FORD's claims; but the complaints were so numerous that NASCAR had little choice but to ban the super speedway cars from future advents.
I believe (no one really knows now) that the three origional built by HM were actual steel tops from the 61. They would have modified the quarters to accept the earlier STARLINER quarter glass. If you will notice the photo(s) in the earlier post, the top suspended above the 62 CONV is not an actual STARLINER top but a fiberglass copy made available in the HOLMAN-MOODY changeover kits. These were to be bolted to the 62 CONV (removable) as they still raced convertibles then. No quarter glass was available (it would not fit the conv. quarter panel anyways. It may have been possible that HM released a later snap-in glass but it would not have been weather proof. NASCAR banned the roof anyways.

It was a big scam on NASCAR to make the 62 GALAXY slicker in the wind.

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Old 12-06-2006, 12:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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After reading the last post, I went back and researched this further. At seventy two years of age, with a case of CRS desease, I don't always remember correctly.

You can view the winning car in color with almost the same description, that I gave.

Try http://www fredlorenzen.com/Pictures.htm
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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On 2006-12-06 12:00, rayell wrote:

After reading the last post, I went back and researched this further. At seventy two years of age, with a case of CRS desease, I don't always remember correctly.

You can view the winning car in color with almost the same description, that I gave.

Try http://www fredlorenzen.com/Pictures.htm
http://www.fredlorenzen.com/Pictures.htm

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Vintage NASCAR Model from Chuck Poi
Freddie Lorenzen's '62 Ford Starlift








Note From Chuck:

"The new roof line of the '62 Galaxy had all the aerodynamics of a brick. It pretty much negated any additional speed the larger 406 engine would have provided. For the Atlanta Dixie 400, Ford engineers and Holman-Moody came up with the idea of bolting on the '60 Starliner roof on to the Sunliner convertables that had raced previously that season. There were even 2 street versions being shown in area Ford dealerships to try to convince NASCAR that this was an actual option.

NASCAR first said no, then agreed to let the 4 cars that were built compete in the upcoming Atlanta race only. Lorenzen drove the #28, teamate Nelson Stacy had the yellow #29, Marvin Panch drove the Wood Bros. #21, and Larry Frank drove the pale blue #66 Cafe Burgundy entry. Lorenzen won. The car was disallowed from further competition. Nostalgia Race Models Starlift kit."
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Told this picture is of the '62 World 600. Can you verify?

PHOTO of BOXTOP 62

Yes. The photo is from the '62 World 600 in Charlotte. There was a rules change that prevented Holman-Moody from running the cars they prepared for the race. (#28/Lorenzen--#29 Stacy) so they had to scramble and build two replacement cars the final three days before the event. (hence Freddie's crazy number 0, which was a car they were building for somebody else) Stacy won that event. Lorenzen finished 3rd. Steve Samples
You can see the quarter glass is not correct in the model.

As for the top itself (kit), below is the STARLINER rear glass;



Compare it to the actual kit top shown in above post. It (HM race cars) had to be an origional top as the caption says they had to build a new car rather than just removing/replacing the SKYLINER top.

Wasn't GRAND NATIONAL run without side glass in those years?




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I just found info on those tops a while back somewhere after I was saying I needed to get me a hardtop for my car like the baby T's had. They told me they made them back when. I think the name was Starlift or something like that. They did exist though at one time. Don't know how many were made or anything else though.
I could use one of them though.

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After some looking around I found the below info and a pic of the '62 Starlift

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Ford


With the Fairlane name gone, the full-size Ford lineup consisted solely of the Galaxie and new Galaxie 500 model. Also new was a 406 in³ (6.7 L) version of Ford's FE mid-sized V8 rated at 405 hp (302 kW). Bucket seats were everywhere in 1962 — sold as "The Lively Ones", the XL series added buckets to the Sunliner convertible and hardtop coupe. The slow-selling Starliner semi-hardtop coupe was replaced by a Starlift removable roof on the Sunliner.


"The new roof line of the '62 Galaxy had all the aerodynamics of a brick. It pretty much negated any additional speed the larger 406 engine would have provided. For the Atlanta Dixie 400, Ford engineers and Holman-Moody came up with the idea of bolting on the '60 Starliner roof on to the Sunliner convertables that had raced previously that season. There were even 2 street versions being shown in area Ford dealerships to try to convince NASCAR that this was an actual option.


There is a pic of it on this page also.
http://www.fredlorenzen.com/Pictures.htm

NASCAR first said no, then agreed to let the 4 cars that were built compete in the upcoming Atlanta race only. Lorenzen drove the #28, teamate Nelson Stacy had the yellow #29, Marvin Panch drove the Wood Bros. #21, and Larry Frank drove the pale blue #66 Cafe Burgundy entry. Lorenzen won. The car was disallowed from further competition. Nostalgia Race Models Starlift kit. "


Article and pics in mustangs and fords
http://www.mustangandfords.com/thehi..._ford_history/

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Ooops we must of been looking at the same time! LOL
But in the process, check out the cool camper. Who said you have to have a truck! In one of the magazines I have it has the plans to build a camper for your car. Crazy.

http://www.62ford.com/registry/better_ideas.asp

There is also starlift info.


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After some looking around I found the below info and a pic of the '62 Starlift

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"The slow-selling Starliner semi-hardtop coupe was replaced by a Starlift removable roof on the Sunliner."

This is an incorrect statement as the STARLIFT was never regular production, just a try to get legal for NASCAR gimmick.




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Ooops we must of been looking at the same time! LOL



http://www.62ford.com/registry/better_ideas.asp

There is also starlift info.
This entry is also not correct;

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This car was powered by an experimental version of the new 427. It was punched out to a huge 483 cubic inches and was estimated to have at least 500 horsepower.
The actual race car had the 406/385HP engine. The engine described was run in the outlawed STARLIFT at Bonneville.

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