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Old 11-26-2009, 09:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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352 Engine Rebuild

I have a 63 Galaxie 500 sedan with a 352 V8 that has over 140K miles on it that needs to be rebuilt. I had a pretty reputable shop give me an estimate of $3000. This guys does great work and the other engines I have seen him work on look like they are brand new. Is this a good price, or should I get some more estimates? Also, completely unrelated question, but would a Galaxie 500 with a 352 have come from the factory with dual exhausts?
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The price seems a bit high. What all is going to be replaced? Most 352s came with single exhaust, but I believe they could be special ordered with duals, though it might have been a dealer option.
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Old 11-27-2009, 12:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 352 Engine Rebuild

Yeah, for a plain Jane rebuild that's about twice the price. Now if that included a new intake, carb, cam, and complete head rebuild with port and polish it'd be about right.
Back then I think you could get dealer installed anything, except a 427 with an automatic or duals on a straight 6.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 352 Engine Rebuild

IMO - If I were faced with rebuilding my 352 (which I am) I would build a 390 based motor. 390s are still pretty plentiful and cheap (just saw a complete running 390 with C6 trans on the local Craigslist for $375 - and I think I paid $50 for a good stock bore block a year or so ago). I have seen "rebuilt" stocker 390s out there for < $1000 - which at teh end of the day probably aren't fully rebuilt - but still - just a reference point.

On top of that - you can get a Scat base stroker assembly for a 390 shortblock for < $2000 and with balancing, machine work and assembly I'd bet you could have a VERY healthy stroker short block at around your $3000 price. There is nothing that says you can't top this off with stock heads until you get the itch to open it up...

Regardless - even if you just want a rebuilt stocker - I'd go get a stock 390 and have him rebuild that one instead. Other than mileage (and I am assuming that this is not a 50 mile per day commuter) there is really no down-side.

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Old 11-27-2009, 10:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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$3K is WAY too much.... Unless like Tex said, it's including a 4V conversion, fully rebuilding the heads with hardened seats etc...

The 352 is a strong motor, and will get better fuel economy than the 390....
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Old 11-27-2009, 11:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Local guy here in North Jersey gave me a 5K estimate to rebuild a 352 from a 58 TBird, and that was a few years ago.

As for duals, my 64 Galaxie 352 convt came from the factory with duals.
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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For some reason I remember reading once that all the convertibles with 352s and 390s were 4 bbl. dual exhaust cars. I may be wrong though. But I have seen sedan 352s with a single pipe.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't think that a 352 4 barrel was available in 1963. Only 352 2v (230 HP??)

Back in ancient history, I remember racing one with my 57 BelAir 283/4v 220 hp powerpack. I blew his doors off. Cop pulled us over and let us go !!!!!!!!

I think that all Ford converts came with duals, but I'm not 100% sure about 64/289s and 63/260s. (My 55 Ford convert had duals.)

Anybody know?

Sidebar. While looking at a 1971 full size Ford catalog, I was surprised to see that a 390/2v was available as an option in 1971, but not in California.

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For some reason I remember reading once that all the convertibles with 352s and 390s were 4 bbl. dual exhaust cars. I may be wrong though. But I have seen sedan 352s with a single pipe.

I got ordering books of the 1960's and cannot find any exception to what was standard. The 352 was considered min. power on a Conv. or S-W. Optional was the 390, with dual exhausts and 4 V carb. There were a few 390's available at lower cost with single and two V carbs. But I can only find the 352 being as I noted (except for way back when that was the hottest thing out there).

I think otherwise the dealer had to install everything you noted.


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Old 11-27-2009, 06:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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$3K is WAY too much.... Unless like Tex said, it's including a 4V conversion, fully rebuilding the heads with hardened seats etc...
I wonder if the quoted cost includes removal and reinstallation, along with fixing up the tranny some.

Was not mentioned.


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Re: 352 Engine Rebuild

carful on the 390- a lot of suposed 390s have 352 rods as the 390 rods are in short supply
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I paid $600 for a valve job (cleaning, magnafluxing, valve replacement, and hardened valve seats), but that was what I paid just for the machine shop work. Everything else (tear down, gaskets, etc.) I did myself, and the gaskets for the heads alone were $69. I guess it depends on where you go though, and 3K does seem a bit steep, but if it includes the complete package, new motor mounts, etc, then it might be worth it.

In my Ford & Mercury manuals, the 352s in '61 came stock with single-exhaust, unless it was a Sunliner, in which case it came with dual-exhaust.

My 62 has a 260 and dual-exhaust, although I suspect that it's likely AM.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: 352 Engine Rebuild

All good info. I need to talk with the guy at the shop again and get a list of everything that 3K includes. I do know he said it included all of the head and valve work. I believe it also included rebuilding the carb. In doing some research recently I found that why my engine is a 352, the carb is a 4v off of a '66 390. Thats why I was asking about the dual exhausts.
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I got ordering books of the 1960's and cannot find any exception to what was standard. The 352 was considered min. power on a Conv. or S-W. Optional was the 390, with dual exhausts and 4 V carb. There were a few 390's available at lower cost with single and two V carbs. But I can only find the 352 being as I noted (except for way back when that was the hottest thing out there).

I think otherwise the dealer had to install everything you noted.


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This might be but I have a 64 conv. with a 223 6cly so I don't think the 352 was min. power avaliable. Though this should of been the case because the 6 is very lacking in the power dept. LOL!!!
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Local guy here in North Jersey gave me a 5K estimate to rebuild a 352 from a 58 TBird, and that was a few years ago.

As for duals, my 64 Galaxie 352 convt came from the factory with duals.

That local guy in Jersey was a thief...
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