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Old 02-27-2011, 09:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Head and Block ID numbers help

A friend asked if i could find out some info on the heads and engine in or from a '66 Fairlane GT. My old 390 was C7ME and was Mustang.

The block numbers are:
C7ME-A 7M14 E1 Which i only know they are '67.

All he has on the heads is: 08AEH

I'll copy and paste what he said:
The block appears to be either a Mercury 410, Ford 390 or a Ford 428. I dont know the valve sizes on the heads but it appeatrs to be a 16 bolt exhaust head with 2.04 valves.

I can ask him for more info on numbers if needed.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Head and Block ID numbers help

The heads are OK, they're C8AEH heads which are 390 truck heads and with some massaging of the ports and valves they're great iron heads.

The C7ME-a block is either a 390, 410 or a 428 in some cases.

The bore and stroke are the only true tellers in this story book. But mated to those heads I'm thinking that it's a 390 truck engine....
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Re: Head and Block ID numbers help

Do you know the bore and stroke off the top of your head for the 428 and 410?
I was thinking that was a C also and so being '68. Doesn't seem to be anything '66 Fairlane about it.
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Re: Head and Block ID numbers help

428 3.98 stroke 4.13 bore 410 3.98 stroke 4.05 bore(it's a 390 with a 428 crank)The C8AE-H head was used on all passenger 390,428 and even the PI, very common.
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Re: Head and Block ID numbers help

I also think it's C8AE-H, and was used on everything from '68-'72 except CJ. However, the trucks and big cars usually got the vertical-bolt heads, so they're likely 14-bolt 390GT. Same difference. As Gary says, measuring the bore and stroke is the only way to be even partially accurate on the rest.

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Re: Head and Block ID numbers help

Here is a listing for block numbers and what they were used in.

Ford FE Engine Block Casting Numbers - FORDification.com

According to this it's either a 300 truck engine or a 428-4v Police Interceptor.



C7ME-A
?? ?? 330MD c.i.d.Medium Duty Truck
'67-'70 428 c.i.d. 428-4V, Police Interceptor, Cobra Jet

This info should be taken with a grain of salt. LOL!!!

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Not very likely to be a 428 PI. I've seen Far Too Many C6ME and C7ME blocks that were standard bore 390 blocks to be convinced.
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Re: Head and Block ID numbers help

The C7ME that was in the shotrod previously was out of a 390 mustang. Think that was the number on the block i had. So many vehicles and same numbers it seems
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Re: Head and Block ID numbers help

Another clue would be the partial VINs usually on the left rear of the block and head. That would also narrow-down the original use and if they match each other.

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Yep. my 69 351W has an OJ159572 on the back of the block on the left just under where the head gasket sits...

Makes it a 69 J code 351 I guess... But there wasn't a J code in 1969 and in 68 it was a 302.. But this is definitely a 351W...

Anyway.... It's there on mine.
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Wrong again FE...in engine VIN stamping the J in "OJ159572" refers to the assy. plant, Los Angeles, and the "0" means it's a 1970. You can't even tell what engine size it is from this stamping, although it's enough to get a Marti report and that will tell you what the rest of the car that was attached to the engine was.
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Wrong again? ALL of the casting codes are C9. and ALL of the date codes are PRE 1970... SO sure it's possible it was slated for a 70 something but it's NOT a 1970 351W period.

Thanks for decoding that part though. The J is the assy plant. I didn't know. Notice that I said "I guess..." on the J code then mentioned that all I know of J coded was a 302, but this is definitely a 351.

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Yeah, wrong again, I don't want to start a pi$$ing match but since you asked
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The heads are OK, they're C8AEH heads which are 390 truck heads
No doubt your engine has 69 casting #s and date codes, and not only is it possible but according to the partial VIN you posted, it definately came down the assy. line in a 1970 model year vehicle,.. so if you don't want to call it a 1970 engine PERIOD, don't ..you can call it what you will...
I truthfully responded with info from the partial VIN YOU provided and you tell me I'm wrong on it being a 1970 model year engine...
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Re: Head and Block ID numbers help

OK, I'll let you have this one. But C8AEH heads were on my stock 68 390 F250. THat makes them 390 truck heads to me Even though someone else said they were used in many other places.

And about me being wrong about the 351 W I have. You are correct, I AM wrong if that 0J2348793248 on the back of the block is an 0 and not a 9. And since not all Ford blocks got a partial VIN on teh back, you cannot say that a C9 block is actually a D0 block. If it were a D0 block then it would say D0 on it.

Of course it could be a casting/Model Year Transition block, but to me a C9 is a C9 is a C9, not a D0...

Not a pissing match by my standards, because you did teach me some stuff I wasn't aware of like the Letter representing the Assy Plant not the engine code. Thanks.
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