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Elrude IV · 12-24-2009, 08:41 PM

Hi I bought a ford galaxie 500 1964 with 289 engine that wont start.
When I first got the vehicle the engine turned over a little to slow but almost started but a week later it did not turned over at all a month later I cleaned the battery terminals and hooked my + cable up to my starter solenoid but was loose so when I turned the key the engine turned of but sparks flew from the loose nut I tightned it up then turned the key again it cranked very slowly and the lights dimed put a charger on it cranked 3 times then I lost all electrical power so later I use a power station to bypass the starter solenoid and it turned way to slow and I also notice that the fan was not moving the belt was just sliding over. ( It is about 20 degrees when I by passed the starter solenoid.)

I am wondering what is wrong with this vehicle.

hotrodstude · 12-25-2009, 06:51 AM

mny questions.

1.how old is the battery?
2.how long has the car been setting?
3.fan dose not turn,sounds like water pump frozen,rust or water

4.starter could be "draging"(new starter needed?
5.how much do you know about cars?
6.use a voltmeter to check all of the starter circuits and wiring.
this is just a starting point,remember you can have 100 cars with the same problem and 99 of them will be the same thing but that 1 will be something totaly different. good luck.

FEandGoingBroke · 12-25-2009, 07:15 AM

FROZEN water pump....

Lots of problems. First off, take off the belts and then crank it over, But do not start it until you have replaced your waterpump.

Secondly, clean ALL the grounds to the block and frame, then to the battery, and also to the Positive posts and their respective terminals.

Elrude IV · 12-25-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrodstude

mny questions.

1.how old is the battery?
2.how long has the car been setting?
3.fan dose not turn,sounds like water pump frozen,rust or water

4.starter could be "draging"(new starter needed?
5.how much do you know about cars?
6.use a voltmeter to check all of the starter circuits and wiring.
this is just a starting point,remember you can have 100 cars with the same problem and 99 of them will be the same thing but that 1 will be something totaly different. good luck.

1. The battery is about 6 months old
2 Car has been setting in a basement for 20yrs
3
4.I turned the car over alot so it could be the starter
5. Not so much I am sixteen and get all my info online and some advice from my dad
6.When I bypassed the solenoid with a power station the energy level was full when I turned the power on the bar level went to one. Thanks for the Luck

Elrude IV · 12-25-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FEandGoingBroke

FROZEN water pump....

Lots of problems. First off, take off the belts and then crank it over, But do not start it until you have replaced your waterpump.

Secondly, clean ALL the grounds to the block and frame, then to the battery, and also to the Positive posts and their respective terminals.

The water pump is new got replaced about 6 months ago. Thanks for the advice.

FEandGoingBroke · 12-25-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elrude IV

I also notice that the fan was not moving the belt was just sliding over.

( It is about 20 degrees when I by passed the starter solenoid.)

I am wondering what is wrong with this vehicle.

I am wondering what's wrong with this picture!

Welcome to FM, we'll get you squared away.

WHY DOES THE WATER PUMP NOT TURN??? New and 20* outside means FROZEN if you only have WATER in the engine.

Is there any antifreeze?

If the water pump is new it will spin, if it is BAD it will spin and leak, if it is rusted out in the bearings or frozen in water it will NOT spin...

So you could also have worn out the starter if it's NOT frozen and it still drags ass trying to crank over.

We need more info, and you likely need a new starter now....

Elrude IV · 12-27-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FEandGoingBroke

I am wondering what's wrong with this picture!

Welcome to FM, we'll get you squared away.

WHY DOES THE WATER PUMP NOT TURN??? New and 20* outside means FROZEN if you only have WATER in the engine.

Is there any antifreeze?

If the water pump is new it will spin, if it is BAD it will spin and leak, if it is rusted out in the bearings or frozen in water it will NOT spin...

So you could also have worn out the starter if it's NOT frozen and it still drags ass trying to crank over.

We need more info, and you likely need a new starter now....

I dont know if there is antifreeze in it the place were I put the anti freeze has a broken tube so I'll have to replace that and probably get a new starter

FEandGoingBroke · 12-28-2009, 07:11 AM

WOW, this just get's better all the time....

Please describe this "PLACE" that you put the antifreeze and um, maybe start taking pictures and pointing for us...

Since you're so new to all this, our advice would indeed be much better if we could interpret your posts and better identify the true culprit of misadventure which prevents your car from starting.

Also, when you said you turned the car over a LOT, how much was a LOT and did the starter get hot on you?

FE

Elrude IV · 12-28-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FEandGoingBroke

WOW, this just get's better all the time....

Please describe this "PLACE" that you put the antifreeze and um, maybe start taking pictures and pointing for us...

Since you're so new to all this, our advice would indeed be much better if we could interpret your posts and better identify the true culprit of misadventure which prevents your car from starting.

Also, when you said you turned the car over a LOT, how much was a LOT and did the starter get hot on you?

FE

I think one time I tried for 20 secs which is probably bad for a starter but it did almost fire I think it was because the points were not set since my brother replaced them before I bought it from him he also replaced the ignition switch.

FEandGoingBroke · 12-28-2009, 08:33 AM

Open your points up to a gap to about .25 to .30.

30 seconds is as long as I recommend cranking ANY engine with a starter, as they will get hot and need about 4 or 5 minutes to dissipate the heat.

Open that point gap, make sure the conenser is hoked up properly, then try it again.

Elrude IV · 12-28-2009, 10:47 AM

Pictures by ElrudeIV - Photobucket Here are pictures of my car.
Pictures by ElrudeIV - Photobucket And this is a picture of my engine.

The green arrow is were the antifreeze is suppose to go and the cap should have a tube going to it. The black arrow is were the nut was loose and started to spark and I have to find were the waterpump is.

Elrude IV · 12-28-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FEandGoingBroke

Open your points up to a gap to about .25 to .30.

30 seconds is as long as I recommend cranking ANY engine with a starter, as they will get hot and need about 4 or 5 minutes to dissipate the heat.

Open that point gap, make sure the conenser is hoked up properly, then try it again.

I read that the point gap for a V8 is .18

63hardtop · 12-28-2009, 12:10 PM

why is this in the for sale section?

Elrude IV · 12-28-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 63hardtop

why is this in the for sale section?

I dont know just did it by accident

FEandGoingBroke · 12-28-2009, 07:25 PM

Start a new one and ignore the .18 gap and go .22 or .25