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myblue68 · 01-06-2013, 12:38 AM

Just to throw in my 2 cents.....I'm a ford guy, but the one-wire delco alternator was a gift from the hot rod gods. I don't care that it's a Chevy part, it works great on my Bronco. The original GT-40 race cars had Corvair taillights because they fit the application when they were building them. Doesn't make them any less cool. Anyone who's put a 8-71 blower on a ford has just used a GM originated part. The basis of hot rodding is building a car using the best parts you have available. A 350 chev in a ford is still a little far, and so is a 390 in a 69 chevelle. The Chevy based brake conversions I've read about were nice and budget minded (at least the ones I've read about). I think I read a tech article on FM about a disc conversion for a 9in that used GM calipers that I would try. To each there own I guess.....

KULTULZ · 01-06-2013, 05:12 AM

The main issue is not car maker source but the inefficiency of the GM ONE-WIRE ALT.

PSG (?) did a fine job of presenting the facts. They were made for farm tractors originally.

You want to trash up your ride, that is entirely your business. But don't pop the hood and expect everyone to agree with you.

myblue68 · 01-06-2013, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ

The main issue is not car maker source but the inefficiency of the GM ONE-WIRE

You want to trash up your ride, that is entirely your business. But don't pop the hood and expect everyone to agree with you.

Wait, wait, the problem isn't that it's a GM part that is on a ford/discussed on a ford site? I thought I read somewhere, at the beginning, where someone was complaining about stupid GM parts on Fords and why that kind of talk was horrible and sacrilegious on a Ford site. Oh yeah, that was you. If you're going to whine about something at least be consistent.

thekingofazle · 01-06-2013, 01:35 PM

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PSG (?) did a fine job of presenting the facts. They were made for farm tractors originally.

Much like transmissions, engines, and carburetors.

Bikesandfires · 01-06-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by myblue68

the one-wire delco alternator was a gift from the hot rod gods. I don't care that it's a Chevy part, it works great on my Bronco.

Just wondering....What does it do better than what FoMoCo provided???
Besides causing you to cobble together a bracket and modify the factory wiring harness.

myblue68 · 01-06-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bikesandfires

Just wondering....What does it do better than what FoMoCo provided???
Besides causing you to cobble together a bracket and modify the factory wiring harness.

The one i have was made at the local elctrical shop. It is a one wire delco that has a motorcraft snout, so it bolted right into place of the original and used the same belt. And by only having one wire it eliminates the rest of the stock alt. harness. One wire is getting the job done just the same as the stock one, just less harness sitting around. No cobbled brackets, no serious wire splicing.

thekingofazle · 01-06-2013, 04:14 PM

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Just wondering....What does it do better than what FoMoCo provided???
Besides causing you to cobble together a bracket and modify the factory wiring harness.

If people were that concerned with vendors, the aftermarket wouldn't exist. This isn't "FordConcoursForums," it's FordMuscle.

GM doesn't even make most of the alternators anyway, any more than using Goodyear tires that came on a Chevy makes those tires branded GM.

Hod rodding has always been "run what you got." Other than being able to claim you're a "Ford purist" what does it matter in the first place? Do you win an award? Being combative about it and claiming superiority when there is none is childish and diminishes a sport that is so divided it's disappearing.

People lament the loss of the car enthusiast - well I can see why! What young person wants to get excited about cars when he or she gets told that alternator isn't the right brand. Why would they feel motivated to join a sport that's a bunch of old men talking about what they did back in the day and haven't done since?

I'm not even sure how most of you have the time you do to sit around on the internet all day and complain about alternator brands.

ford4v429 · 01-06-2013, 04:38 PM

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Because Shotrod understands if you alienate everyone by trolling, calling them idiots, and having unproductive discussion, eventually people will move on and leave this board, making it a shell of what it once was.

I agree. this was always one of the 'friendliest' forums out there, and in the past couple years theres been a lot of losses that have hurt it...Tbirdchick, Murff, others passed away, but Greg Cook, now Mavman it appears, and a few others appear to have simply 'had enough' as the site has slowly degraded, sometimes just short of the typical internet flamefest site, really a shame... sharing info/killing time is a lot easier in a friendly crowd,, like a good neighborhood, it only takes a few to ruin a good thing...

DanH · 01-06-2013, 09:56 PM

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I agree. this was always one of the 'friendliest' forums out there, and in the past couple years theres been a lot of losses that have hurt it...Tbirdchick, Murff, others passed away, but Greg Cook, now Mavman it appears, and a few others appear to have simply 'had enough' as the site has slowly degraded, sometimes just short of the typical internet flamefest site, really a shame... sharing info/killing time is a lot easier in a friendly crowd,, like a good neighborhood, it only takes a few to ruin a good thing...

The good old days on the forum . A lot of losses ! how many have left in the last few years ? go back 10 years for active member count . all the members then still here 5 years from that start point ?

I've only know of three members to leave , one did return .
Yes the Mavman did leave . My guess is he couldnt handle being told he's wrong . The other member left over the sale of the site to a corp.

what is the number of members that come for free info and gone after the forum is no longer usefull .

KULTULZ · 01-07-2013, 03:56 AM

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GM doesn't even make most of the alternators anyway, any more than using Goodyear tires that came on a Chevy makes those tires branded GM.

GM divested itself of DELCO? Must have been a part of the OBAMA ZOMBIE bailout.

Thanx for informing me. I had no idea.

KULTULZ · 01-07-2013, 03:58 AM

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Much like transmissions, engines, and carburetors.

And you would use those tractor components on your ride?

Fascinating... Not surprising... But fascinating...

KULTULZ · 01-07-2013, 04:07 AM

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Wait, wait, the problem isn't that it's a GM part that is on a ford/discussed on a ford site? I thought I read somewhere, at the beginning, where someone was complaining about stupid GM parts on Fords and why that kind of talk was horrible and sacrilegious on a Ford site. Oh yeah, that was you. If you're going to whine about something at least be consistent.

Pull the knot out of your lacy panties Shirley.

I could care less what people do to their ride. In most instances, it makes more work for professionals, which is good for their livelihood.

The poster asked about the GM ALT and was given the facts of the matter. It is his/her/it's/mutant's decision as to which way he wants to go.

In most professional shops, they will not take in this hacked automotive systems. He will have to find a HEAT AND BEAT tinkerer that frequents this board most likely to help him out of his own cobbling.

Simply put, if you cannot or are unable to afford to do it correctly (sanely), then leave it alone. Just more fuel for the regulators to impose more strict inspections and wanting to take away do-it-yourself.

They come here for advice. Many offer. It is his decision. Your rattling and wasting of bandwidth is not needed.

FEandGoingBroke · 01-07-2013, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ

In most professional shops, they will not take in this hacked automotive systems. He will have to find a HEAT AND BEAT tinkerer that frequents this board most likely to help him out of his own cobbling.

Simply put, if you cannot or are unable to afford to do it correctly (sanely), then leave it alone. Just more fuel for the regulators to impose more strict inspections and wanting to take away do-it-yourself.

The above is a pretty damn stupid thing to say because you do NOT have your facts straight.
In 99% of all Automotive repair shops, the reason they will not will NOT take in a cross branded car to work on is because their "technicians" are stupid as rocks and DO NOT KNOW HOW anything works!!! They simply hook up a code reader and replace the bad parts.
There are NO MORE MECHANICS working at dealerships and 90% of your major auto repair businesses any longer, they're parts replacers.

They have the poorest effing Diagnostic skills I've ever seen.

85% of them have never even seen a CARBURETOR...

ANY SHOP that will turn your car away because it uses an off brand part isn't worth a damn.

Sometimes it's not about affordability, sometimes it's about doing it easy, and a GM one wire alt is pretty damn easy.

MYblue68 was wrong about his assumption, kultulz simply asked this "Is there any chance of starting a new section under Topic Specific Forums?

It seems there is a plethora of DELCO-MORON disc brake upgrades here lately. They should be separate so I don't keep clicking on them. I am afraid that my browser may catch a virus...

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I think it's a totally reasonable question.

DanH · 01-07-2013, 09:34 AM

FE , good post . A PRO SHOP doesnt turn away work because of mixed brand parts .

today , some shops are like the parts store , not a standard item - their lost

Mazlem · 01-07-2013, 09:40 AM

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It seems there is a plethora of DELCO-MORON disc brake upgrades here lately. They should be separate so I don't keep clicking on them. I am afraid that my browser may catch a virus...

And the answer is - work on your eye-hand coordination so as not to keep clicking on threads you don't want to read.