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Old 06-17-2013, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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sitting 29 yrs... time to start on the 69 mustang

not much yet, but finally getting slightly motivated to get after the poor old mustang... started making the rotisserie mounts up yesterday(a couple years after putting the rotissery/gantry frame up).

rough plan:
1) roll over for comfortable stripping the chassis to bare metal
replace whatever rot we run into
2) RRS tower notching kit
3) some sort of coilover/strut front end- if cant modify something readily available with junkyard/parts store stuff, may have to go RRS, but its awful pricey.
4) discs all around of course
5) still undecided on tranny... have a posi 8.8/disc rear for it, but dont think it would live with a stickshift...
6) my 69 429- cheap rebuild, rings and shells...everything checked out ok long ago, dont require machining, so leaving it dimensionally stock...

motor wishlist:
05 up mustang engine controls- knock sensors, fab a hydraulic cam advance mechanism, port injection/o2 sensors/electronic throttle/everything...thinking mapping a set of 05-up cam profiles and having a similar roller cam made would be cool...built a 4th axis for my mill, could maybe even make one at home...if things go really well, a set of Kaase boss heads top the dream list- the wife will definitely have a issue with that though, even thinking about that kind of cost is a bit scary- but man those are some cool looking heads.

expect this thread to fall flat often, maybe for years or another decade, but I think if I kinda start the diary thing like I did on Ben's galaxie, it keeps my goof butt motivated to get out in the garage and try to do something...

for starters, heres pics of the car from 1984 just before it got mothballed, and as its sat under the rotisserie frame in the messy garage since late '09 (been sitting in a garage engineless since '84):
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Re: sitting 29 yrs... time to start on the 69 mustang

funny(sad) looking at the car tonight, still has stickers on the tires... I bought new wheels/tires in '93 when they rereleased the torq-thrust wheels...20 year old new tires...i should be shot.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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But you're DOING it. That's the Good part!
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Hey ... just think ... your actually ahead of some folks on the forum!! That's a good thing in my book.

Congrats on starting the process & keep us posted.
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didnt get to work on it tonight, home from work late, and had a huge brush pile to chip up, tractor ran low on diesel, still about half of it to go...anyone want some mulch

anyways, got the new 'bumpers' together pretty much, just need to drill the holes for the bumper bolts and box the front plates- and gotta get some big roundstock for the 'pins', 3.75 diameter, kinda big, but its the tubing I.D. I got... hoping maybe over the 4th weekend we'll get her in the air finally, unless we decide for a last minute vacation or something...
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Airborne! with the rear axle still in it, its bottom heavy, had my 14 yr old sit in it to roll a bit... now to make room in the garage for all the extra crap to come out of it... was a good day today, the lift tables hadnt been used since the galaxie near 10 yrs ago, they still worked fine to lift the whole thing onto the pivots- but I really dont remember my cradles weighing so much, theres gotta be 400+ pounds there to fit up...but lifted along the full length of the rockers, even with wheels/suspension still hanging, picked it up fine... the big pivot pins are a tight fit once bolted up, gonna be fun drawing them out when the time comes...I'll have to drop a threaded plug in to draw them out, or guess I could just unbolt the fronts...whatever- that will be some time from now.
anyways, now shes up, can start pulling the suspension/ interior, should have it lightened up in a week or so- then the fun part of stripping all that friggin undercoating...its gotta be 3/8 thick in the wheelwells... least favorite job.
Expecting quite a bit of rot, its a Ohio mustang after all... body from 20 feet looks decent, but its in need... door bottoms are gone, one torque box shot, frame rail has a bad spot( was worried about rotisserie, so left a lot of weight in it and carefully lowered the cradles...jumped on it pretty hard, no sign of anything moving...without the cradles/suspension/interior there will be a easy 600 pound weight reduction, so think she'll be fine) drivers quarter needs a couple patches, passenger fender 2 small patches... top of shock towers are bad- theyre gonna be removed... think the rear frame/floors/rockers are gonna be fine, but there is a lot of undercoating- at least its a mustang and everythings readily available. Original owner had texaco shoot the car with cosmoline- plugs all over it, still drips out if it sits in the sun...cleaning all that crap out will be fun in areas needing welding... a little worried on how thats gonna work out...
Once the undercoats all stripped and floors patched if necessary, then the empty shell will go on stands for cutting the drivers front frame rail and removing everything above it to make more room for the bigblock. long ways to go, but at least its finally STARTED
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Airborne! with the rear axle still in it, its bottom heavy, had my 14 yr old sit in it to roll a bit... now to make room in the garage for all the extra crap to come out of it...

Thats one heavy duty spit you got there! Cant wait to see the progress.

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Re: sitting 29 yrs... time to start on the 69 mustang

The pic of the Mustang sitting in the garage looks pretty good. Why are you taking it all the way apart?
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The pic of the Mustang sitting in the garage looks pretty good. Why are you taking it all the way apart?
Looks can be deceiving... Expecting it to be worse than i already know- one frame rail and torquebox definitely shot, expect other side might be similar, expecting the typical inner cowl rot, drivers quarter needs lower patches front and rear of the wheel opening, who knows what the wheelhouses will be like...they look great, but tons of undercoat likely hiding some stuff...

Need to flip to clean/ prep the underside mostly- my old back and knees wouldnt tolerate months under a car again like our galaxie did, still feel that 10 yrs later...
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Excellent project, I think the 68 & 69 stangs are my favorite body style.

Keep us posted on this!
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I've never seen a rotisserie like that. Did you build it? I think you could hang a Semi from it.

Going to be a nice car. Looks pretty good already.
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I've never seen a rotisserie like that. Did you build it? I think you could hang a Semi from it.

Going to be a nice car. Looks pretty good already.
was a 3 ton 15' high Wallace gantry...they scrapped out 2 of them at work, this one was buried in the junk/mud, talked the boss out of it quite a few years ago. it woulda been gone with the scrap, but was a pain in the butt to dig out- was sitting sunk/twisted in mud behind a dozen scrap machines, had to knock it apart by hand and drag it out- the top beam alone weighs probably 500# or more...its way too big, but "the price was right ". the top beam is 10" x 6 wide, I welded some 3/4 plate on the side of the beam so it could bolt on the wrong way with a inside spacing the right distance for the mustang and mounts- it will just roll thru the door with the car mounted...its on 8" wheels so it rolls real easy- gotta watch it dont head for the street
the 15' height was 3x6x1/4 rect tube, I cut it roughly in half, welded parallel(making a 6x6) rotated 90 degrees to get web in the right plane and used a holesaw on a mag base drill to bore 4" holes thru for the 'bearing' tubes/pins(had to widen the center plates too, leaving a 4" slot). after the cars done, can rotate the side 6x6s back to normal and put the beam back on properly, but with a 11' ceiling the garage door tracks would be easy to kit... will probably leave as-is or take back in to work if its too much in the way. If I put the beam back on I'd have to figure a way to erect it- as it is I put it togeter all solo/by hand, laying on its side, and used a tractor and 'gator' with one of the kids helping to 'roll' it upright with a pair of chains...couldnt do that in the garage, and if beam upright, wont go thru the door...
a shame they scrapped the other two gantrys, they were nicer, the smaller one woulda been perfect...man when they decide to clean house at work, they throw out everything...if its bent/dirty/rusty I still see potential there, I'm a packrat for sure...

I still have kinda high hopes for the car, at one time it was the most important thing in the world to me, but after a lot of lifes ups and downs, its just a neat looking old car- I just feel really guilty for letting it languish for so long... its way past time to get after it- its rustier than the pics show- much rustier- but ive seen a LOT worse come out real well, hopefully it will come out OK, if not, well at least we tried - right?

my biggest worry was if the car was sound enough to support from the ends, so gently lowered it onto the mounts while suspension and all were still there, plus the weight of the lift cradle steel- about 400#... nothing creaked or crunched, so think it should be fine once lightened up- with the overhead beam, I got options for safety straps too before getting under it- even sideways, I'm not at all worried about the beam handling a half ton shell

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well last night got the rearend out, tonight started unbolting the leaf springs, bolts sticking in the spring eyes...shot some penetrating oil to let sit overnight, and moved up front- got the coil springs and swaybar out... so far only a couple broken off bolts.
noticed tonight, man the kids have grown- they are getting a lot more adept with wrenches... heck last year I'd get so frustrated at them fumbling to put a socket on, or rounding everything by wobbling the ratchet around- at times I think I coulda got bolts out quicker with my toes good to see them being more careful, quick, and 'stable' for lack of a better word when using tools. cool to see them 'working' at a decent pace and almost looking like they know what they are doing
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Score on the Free more or less rotisserie! I was going to build one, But the place I was buying steel at wanted almost a Grand for drops and other stuff.
I got lucky and through a friend I met while working in NJ, he hooked me up with a guy here in Indy that loaned me one for a month. It pays to play nice sometimes. :-)

Glad your kids are helping and learning. All good skills to have, even if they do other things when they get older. My youngest has always been in the garage with me, he is 21 now. He has people asking him to work on cars for them. I keep a eye on him still and help as needed. I know working on my Falcon with my Dad 2 years ago will always be something I remember.

Your car looks good, and I can't wait to see more pictures of it.

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got the front suspension all removed, and found holes above both frame rails...was kinda hoping the passenger side was ok, but guess it will all get replaced, just as well probably.
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