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thecougarguy 06-17-2003 04:30 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
I just scored a 5.0 HO with 2000 on fresh rebuild for $500. Comes complete, from upper intake down to PS and AC and serpentine belt, and manual flywheel. Question is, all the accessories will fit in my engine compartment, right? Also, what should I do about ignition? I'm going to be pulling the FI intake off and putting my carb on it, so I'm not going computer. Should I just take the dizzy and coil from my 289 and put it on the 5.0? Will that work?

Also, is it possible to take off the smog pump and the AC and just get a shorter belt? I don't know the layout of the belt without seeing the motor (don't have it yet) so if this is a totally stupid question, sorry.

deleted3 06-17-2003 04:39 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
An airpump delete setup is available. Why not swap the drive setup off of your existing motor? If this is a roller motor make sure of your distributor drive gear compatability. Should be pretty straight forward.

thecougarguy 06-17-2003 07:30 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
What would you do. I can either use the late model stuff, ie better alternator, ps pump, and serpentine, or use my early stuff, ok alternator, crappy pump (even though it's rebuilt). Also, since it's an '87 HO mustang motor, it should be roller. So, what gear do I need for my distributor to work. PN would be great.

deleted3 06-17-2003 07:36 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
You'll have to get a steel gear. Any competent machine shop can install one for you.

thecougarguy 06-17-2003 09:00 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
Is there a way to make an '87 distributor work without the computer? I already have and am using a Jacob's Ignition system.

deleted3 06-17-2003 09:02 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
Why not swap the steel gear from the late model to your existing one?

thecougarguy 06-17-2003 09:15 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
I was actually just about to ask that. I was on the summit web site and they have two different gears, both have the same OD, but one is for a .531 inch dist shaft, and the other is for a .467. The first one says it's for 302/351 with roller cam, and the second says it's for 5.0/302 with roller cam. So I'm thinking that my dizzy is .531, but the late model is .467? Did I lose you?

thecougarguy 06-17-2003 09:15 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
Also, do I need a new oil pump/pickup if I'm switching the fox pan to my early pan, or are they the same?

NoLongerHere 06-17-2003 09:20 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
YOu can also use an 85 mustang dizzy. It is for carb engines (Vacuum advance) Comes with the roller steal gear. You can purchase it at most auto parts store as a remanufactured product. I think i paid 90.00 for a friends 1975 Mustang II cobra conversion we did. We also Did a complete FI conversion to a 77 King Cobra.

thecougarguy 06-17-2003 09:56 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
I guess I'll just have to play it by ear about the distributor. I still need an answer about the oil pump/pickup, and I also just realized that efi engines have electric fuel pumps, and I'm running a mechanical. Can the 5.0 block accept a mechanical fuel pump or do I need to buy an external electric pump and regulator. If so, what do you guys recommend?

NoLongerHere 06-17-2003 10:04 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
Yes you will need a frt sump pan, oil pump, and pick up. Either use an electric pump( I did in my roller %.0 for The Mav) Or get an old style frt timing cover.

thecougarguy 06-17-2003 10:21 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
Well I'm going to use my '67 stock pan, so do I need to just replace the pickup, or do I need a whole new assembly?

As far as the fuel pump, what should I get that's both cheap and compatible with what I have now (stock fuel pump, so rubber hose inlet, and I guess 5/16" out).

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heavy 06-19-2003 09:18 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
A few months ago i saw a 67 cougar with a 5.0 from a late 80's lincoln. It all fit, as it came out of the car, pullies, intake, etc. dont know abuot exhaust though. The guy bought the motor out of the linclon, wiht automatic trans and comlete wiring harness. Said the m ost diffucult thing was to get the computer to work in the old car, but the motor and trans fit right in. Also said the efi 302 was peppy, with an overdrive trans made decent mileage too.

wdflarity 06-19-2003 10:03 PM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
Get a rebuilt distibutor for an 85 Manual trans Mustang GT with a steel gear, that is a DurasparK II dizzy. Wire it up like this: http://www.therangerstation.com/DurasparkII.html

http://www.mustangsteve.com/conversion.html

The best thing to do is go to a wrecking yard to get the duraspark box and wiring harness, that is what I did.

I am also using the Carter elec. fuel pump for my carb application, they have several to choose from all for less than $80 from Summit or Jegs

Nastystang 06-20-2003 01:36 AM

How to get \'87 5.0 HO into \'67 Cougar
 
Use the front cover off the late model engine for your new setup in the Cougar with the serpentine. All you have to do is drill the front cover for the dipstick at the same angle as the boss is cast at using the correct drill size (? I cant remember what it is, sorry). Using the late model front cover accomplishes a few things it allows you to keep the timeing pointer that goes with it so you will have no doubt that it is right since you will be using the late model engine with the late model balancer. It also has the seal that goes in from the front and not the rear so if you have to change the seal you dont have to the yank the front cover to do it. You dont have to goof with figureing out brackets for the smog pump and timeing pointer because the early front covers and late front covers are the same except for the length of the bolt holes cast in the cover which affect for/aft position of all the bracketry and the accesorry items like the smog pump and the other brackets.

Oh and BTW dont forget to plug the old dipstick hole in the side of the late model block. There is a little freeze plug designed for that application, find one and tap it in, just tap it in.http://www.fordmuscle.com/forums/ima.../icon_razz.gif


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