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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-03-2004, 09:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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hello everyone. I've got a 65 with a rebuilt 289 with 30k on it, no mods. C-4 green dot and 3:1 open diff. I'm looking into building up the car. I'm doing suspension and brakes now, but am planning out performance. I want to run at least 13.5 in the 1/4. It is a daily driver. If I were to put in a new block I would go 351W (probably 393?) Which transmisson would you put with it? I'm looking for all the help I can get. Looking for a dependable car. How much what your your suggestions cost? And what would you do? Thanks a lot, all your feedback is highly appreciated.
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-04-2004, 12:14 AM
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Well I will try with the info you gave.

I would start with a T-5 and some 3:50 gears or better. If you do a lot of freeway stay in the 3:50 range, with a T-5Z you will still get good milage and good performance in the 1st 4 gears. I use 4:11`s with mine and still get decent milage and decent rpm at 70mph. A new T-5Z will run about 1100$ install will require a cross member, mount, Bellhousing, a driveline change, so there is a couple hundred more. A good dual,exhaust system is a must, at least 2 1/4. A performer RPM with a 650 double pumper will wake up any 289/302. A new RPM is 200$ and a carb well??? depends on what you get and from whom. A pair of iron GT40 heads are reasonably priced these days used, 300-400??? these pack bigger valves and you can interchange them with your existing parts. you can aluminum this will take 50lbs off the front of the car, which you will most definetly feel, and add significant HP over stock heads, new about 1200 will get you going just for the heads, but you will need rockers and pushrods. $$$$

It is always best to put on paper what you want to do with the car then work from that. Then put together a matching combo that will work good and give you what you want. In this hobby you rarely get your cake and get to eat it, there are always sacrifices to be made in comfort, noise, cost, reliability.

If you want to run 13.5 in a 3200lb car you will need around 260 HP or so at the tire, this is not hard to get these days, but then we come back to sacrifice and $$$$$$

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My appox. guess...$6,000.00 which is 100% A-Z. Where are you located at ???
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thanks a lot for the feedback guys. i'm located in the bay area rumpityrump (concord). so one last question, build the 289 or just get a 351W? I'll hopefully have about $4300 by the end of this summer to spend on it. Feedback is great. Thanks alot.
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Personally I like the 5.0/302/289. The 351 is a very tight fit, but packs a lot of punch. Only the heads will interchange, so if you put money into exhaust for your 289 then you will have to do it again for the 351. If you buy an intake for the 289 then you will have to do it again for the 351. From what it sounds like you are going to do with it the small block will meet your needs. But you can never have toooo much small block.

If it matters I get about 350HP at the tire from my 5.0 (302)in my 65, it is a very fun ride.

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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-05-2004, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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sounds cool nastystang. what have you done to it to get that power? how much have you spent? what parts? thanks for stickin with me on this one.

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Well the heart of my Mustang started with an 89 roller motor from a Mustang. It now has E-brock RPM heads, with the ports and bowls smoothed, 1.90 IN and 1.60 EX. RPM intake, 650 speed Demon, Windage tray, and under drive pullies on my serpentine setup, and JBA shorty headers with 2.5" exhaust going thru a pair of Flowmasters, runs 12.30`s at 111 to 112.5, that is with a T-5Z and 4:11`s on drag radials. I have no personal experience with the 351 swap, I am just partial to the little small block.

I paid 1200$ for the motor-used
1100$ for the heads
Cam and rockers were about 500$
450$ for the 650 Demon
180$ for the RPM intake
I cant remember what I paid for the head bolts but it was enough to piss me off.
The ATI Superdamper was 400$, rebuildable and rated for up 10000 rpm`s, NASCAR approved, woohoo.
JBA headers 400$-Stainless Steel
With shop labor on the head and cam install I got about 8000$ into this motor. Last Feb it dynoed just over 340 at the tire and was barly running 110, I made some carb and carb spacer changes and it ran a best 112.6 in the 1/4 after the changes. With the 4:11`s and 5 speed I drive it anywhere w/o hesitation, I took it on a 300mile trip a couple years ago to a drag race and I drove it 70 75 and around 2700 rpms there and back, it ran great and made 18MPG including 5 passes down the 1/4.

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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-07-2004, 04:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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another question... a buddy of mine has gt-40 heads from a 95 cobra is said he could give me, could i fit these on my 289? what modifications would i have to do? what parts should i use around the heads (intake, carb, cam, etc..) thanks a lot, this is the most helpful forum i've come across.
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