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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-08-2006, 05:54 AM Thread Starter
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I'm contemplating a rack and pinion for my 64 Falcon small block, not a Mustang II swap, and I'm soliciting opinions on whether to go with a power assist, or a manual. I have manual steering now but don't really know how a stock steering unit compares with a R & P. I can't recall ever driving a manual R&P. Anyone driving around with a manual rack that would share some information?

"Tell it like it is or don't tell it at all" 1964 Falcon 2dr HT, 347V8 4V, dual exhaust, 5sp, pwr assist R&P steering, AM radio, heater with defrost and 2sp fan, electric windshield wipers, cigar lighter, dlx light group, bucket seats, console and full carpet.
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From what I've read (not from experience) the manual racks can be tough to turn. Many have stated this on the Mustang forums and some have switched to power.
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I dont really mind my manual rack that I have on my 67 mustang. When I dropped the upper control arms it got easear to steer (it may just have been the increased caster in the alignment though). If you do go with a rack and pinion setup STAY AWAY FROM FLAMING RIVER! Go with a TCP or something like that instead.
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i run a quick ratio flaming river rack albeit with skinny front runners but I also have a big block, not bad at all, and clean looking.

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If you do go with a rack and pinion setup STAY AWAY FROM FLAMING RIVER! Go with a TCP or something like that instead.
Evidently, Flaming River has learned their lesson and peformed more research. They have RnP systems based on type of spindles, exhaust manifolds/headers and engine sizes. OTOH ask PLENTY of questions before spending dime one.

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I would still go with a TCP one myself if I had to do it over again
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I have one 65 mustang w/ a TCP manual rack and another with a stock ratio box. Effort wise, the manual rack is harder to turn than the std ratio. But it is easier than a quick ratio manual.

It does depend on tires, but I don't know exactly how. I changed from stock 14" w/ skinny tires to 15X7 w/ 4.25 BS and sticky 215's, and the steering got considerably EASIER.

If you do a lot of around town driving and parking, you should probably get the power. On the freeway, the manual is great, there is a ton of road feedback. But there is also a lot of vibration in the wheel. I have to get my front wheels balanced on a Hunter machine to make it more comfortable. Before I figured that out, my hands would be tingling when I got home after driving 25 miles. The power might have less vibration.

Most days I like the manual fine because it is bone simple and reliable. There are other days, like if I have to go to work sick, or I'm real tired coming home, and I really wish I had got the power!

I'm not sure of the price difference, but you might be able to get the power rack and use it manual. Then later on buy the pump etc.
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Thanks much for the advice. It gives me more to consider. Sounds like power is probably the best way to go.

"Tell it like it is or don't tell it at all" 1964 Falcon 2dr HT, 347V8 4V, dual exhaust, 5sp, pwr assist R&P steering, AM radio, heater with defrost and 2sp fan, electric windshield wipers, cigar lighter, dlx light group, bucket seats, console and full carpet.
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I am also looking at the TCP R&P. It looks like a great unit. The price seems to have gone up again. Its up to ~$2600 for the SB power unit..
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Friend intsalled a manual TCP unit in his '66 over a weekend in the driveway. Really liked it even though he said it was a little harder to steer. Seems to be the same feeling as everyone else.

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My experience is that the 4,5 turn (lock to lock)units a very nice+easy.The 3 and 2,5 turn units are race only in my book..
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Is anyone familiar with this one?


http://www.autoworks.cc/RRS_steering.htm

"Tell it like it is or don't tell it at all" 1964 Falcon 2dr HT, 347V8 4V, dual exhaust, 5sp, pwr assist R&P steering, AM radio, heater with defrost and 2sp fan, electric windshield wipers, cigar lighter, dlx light group, bucket seats, console and full carpet.
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