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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-25-2011, 01:14 PM Thread Starter
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1930 Ford Model A Build

This is my first post, I am new to the site.
I am putting together a 302 HO out of a 91 mustang to throw in a 1930 ford I am building, I am aiming for about 400-450 hp and I was wondering if anyone had suggestions for a relatively inexpensive top end? I am just going with a carb instead of the efi. It has a mild comp cam & hyper eutectic pistons. I was thinking about going with AFR heads but someone told me that is overkill and they are expensive, patriot heads were suggested. I also have to pick a decent intake and carb too.

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There are endless possibilities out there. I am glad to hear that your not putting a Chevy in it. We have a 33 all steel Ford coupe but she has a ZZ 430. We are looking at putting in a new 5.0 in it. As far as yours I would look at stroking your 5.0 and definetly do the AFR heads. Look at the victor Jr. Air gap intake and a Holley 650 double pumper.
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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Build

Thanks man, you got any pics of your 33? That sounds sweet

I know this is gonna sound kinda dumb.. you get what you pay for, but I am trying to find the best combo for the lowest price

I am building her on my own at home and trying to squeeze every last penny out of her haha basically have just started with a frame, a body, and a parts car (86 cougar)

Now if you think that is the way to go I am sure I can scrape funds together but any other suggestions would be awesome too
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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Build

400-450 hp from a stock 8.2 deck block, you're gonna wanna stroke it or use a power adder.

70 Maverick Grabber, 5.0 (Perf. RPM heads, RPM intake, FiTech EFI, Comp XE266HR roller cam, EDIS/Megajolt ignition, long headers), T5Z w/Steeda TriAx shifter, 9" Trac Loc w/3.89:1, 31 spline axles.
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Re: 1930 Ford Model A Build

Yeah thats what I had originally thought but check this article out, of course this is efi but similar nonetheless:

400 HP 302 ci AFR 165 cc(Stock Cam)

And for the cost of power adders or stroke I will take a bit of a drop in power, I wanna get the car running and driving for a decent price, then sink money into it later as I go
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Right in our own backyard...
400 Horsepower 302 - Short Block Assembly - FordMuscle

Spend money on heads. Nothing wrong with used ones either. Check out swap meets or ebay.

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Yeah thats what I had originally thought but check this article out, of course this is efi but similar nonetheless:

400 HP 302 ci AFR 165 cc(Stock Cam)

And for the cost of power adders or stroke I will take a bit of a drop in power, I wanna get the car running and driving for a decent price, then sink money into it later as I go
That article is 8 years old and has been talked about for years. No one since then has been able to duplicate that power using those parts. Consences is it was tested on a very happy dyno. This is the internet, just because you read it doesn't make it so.

My previous engine was a 347 stroker w/AFR185 heads, 300 degree advertised duration roller cam, RPM intake, 650 DP Holley, long tube headers, etc. Made 421 hp @6500rpm at the flywheel.

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My previous engine was a 347 stroker w/AFR185 heads, 300 degree advertised duration roller cam, RPM intake, 650 DP Holley, long tube headers, etc. Made 421 hp @6500rpm at the flywheel.
That number seems really low

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That number seems really low
Let me guess, you read somewhere on the internet that someone with my exact same combo made 600 hp...

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Let me guess, you read somewhere on the internet that someone with my exact same combo made 600 hp...
Not exact same, but I know BigJoe built a 347 with afr 185s and popped out 530hp.

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So it is worth the money to go with the AFR heads instead of Patriot?
Is there any other intake, carb combos that anyone would suggest or is the victor Jr. Air gap intake and a Holley 650 double pumper the way to go?
Oh and thanks for the link SLCK64 browsed is quick, looks pretty good I am gonna have to read that for sure.
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So it is worth the money to go with the AFR heads instead of Patriot?
Is there any other intake, carb combos that anyone would suggest or is the victor Jr. Air gap intake and a Holley 650 double pumper the way to go?
Oh and thanks for the link SLCK64 browsed is quick, looks pretty good I am gonna have to read that for sure.
From what ive seen on here AFRs are good for their money. Wont be disappointed. Ive had good luck with World Products heads like the ones in the FM 302 build, cheaper than AFRs and other aftermarket heads cause they are iron not AL.

Cant go wrong with Edelbrock intakes and a holley carb.

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400 Horsepower 302 - Short Block Assembly - FordMuscle

Spend money on heads. Nothing wrong with used ones either. Check out swap meets or ebay.
It wont let me read the whole article, free membership cant check that out?
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It wont let me read the whole article, free membership cant check that out?
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