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I believe that it goes in the fuel.


Seafoam , goes in the fuel and or the oil
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Good Day all, I have been busy getting some of the necessary equipment and tools to do most of the Fairlane rebuild project myself , got large shop air compressor, sand blaster, sand baster booth, engine host, engine stand and the best is a 4 post car host .
So far I have the interior remove ( seats, carpet , head liner , door panels, kick panels ) also pulled the exhaust , engine & trans.
Next is to pull all suspension Parts ( going to replace the rear leaf spring & shocks , front coil springs and shocks )
Going to sand blast the interior floor and complete underneath of the car, rear end and all front suspension parts, prime with Eastwood epoxy primer and then a epoxy undercoat ( going to use a heat and sound insulation like Hush mat Ultra on the interior floor , doors , etc ) , going to sand blast ( using walnut shell media ) engine bay and trans and prime and paint, also engine block, valve covers, air breather ( What was the stock color of the engine block ??? )

Going to replace front and rear seals in the engine and trans , do rear axle seals , switching brakes over to power disc brakes ( Master Power Rallye brakes on front , and maybe there Pro Driver rear or Wilwood rears ( would like to have 15" rims and the Pro Drivers don,t work with all 15" rims )


Now to the new interior parts , Looking at Stock Interior Ultra plush cut pile with mass backing with matching floor mats, also there headliner ( going to send them sample pieces of stock carpet, head liner so they can match to there color ( they will send me a sample of there best match ) ( has anyone used there carpet , would like to know if there carpet is molded to replace the small vinyl pieces that were stock that runs along the door floor kick plate ( on the floor vertical piece between door and seat )??? A
Also if there molded carpet replaces the stock vinyl piece that runs from the rear floor vertical kick plate to the rear bench seat ????


Also going to replace the front side kick plates with ones made for speakers, they come in black, also my dash top cover color is very sun faded , will the SEM color paint aerosol can paint from stock interior work for painting these ???

Now for the seat cover , looking at getting this from Mac,s ( bad thing is only may driver seat cover is bad ) and they sell in pr,s , also they have a rear window package tray, will have to make sure there color matches the stock color.

Well that all for now and if anyone has any info to help with any of my ?,s above that would be great.


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Hi again , need more help/info , in looking for a rear disc brake set up I need to know what rear axle flange and the axle offset dimension ,The car is a 1965 fairlane 500 sports coupe, anyone know this info? thanks
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Call Willie, at Rod & Custom Motorsports, they make a great Mustang 11 style front suspension & they have rear disc set up for your 8" rear that your looking for, so I'd assume he knows the flange size/offset you need by heart.
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Thanks for the info Royster, I looked up there site and e-mailed them about the front and rear disc brake kits, looks like good kits for the price,( most kits on the market are over kill for what I want or need , I rather spend the money on other thing the car needs ) but the only problem is that the power booster/ master cylinder kit he has does not work with a stock car inner shock tower, so I trying to find out what my options are for a power booster / master cylinder are that will work


Anyone help with what power booster/ master cylinder combo would work on my car would be great


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Call Willie, at Rod & Custom Motorsports, they make a great Mustang 11 style front suspension & they have rear disc set up for your 8" rear that your looking for, so I'd assume he knows the flange size/offset you need by heart.
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Well here is a power booster / master cylinder combo that will work on my car



I think I may go with Rod & custom motorsports front and rear drilled and slotted disc brake kits with this power booster and if it will fit I will uses this proportioning valve.
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I think I will start a new tread for the rebuild project and post pictures and progress updates .
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Not sure if this posted, try again
To clear shock tower I went with the same set up as Falcon guys using, & got the How to over at crazyformercury.com site,. Using the Geo or Suzuki booster & MC but, i'm running 4 wheel discs so went with the Geo booster/Ford MC which slips right on the booster. FordMC is the aluminum plastic type you see on full size & mid size Fords, mine off a 96 Mustang gt , it was running 4 wheel disc brakes as i am, 7/8" or 1" bore).Clears stock tower -1/4"
Simple plate to mount to firewall & an adjustable pushrod is all it takes to mount.
Brakes are awesome!, as good as my 97 Camaro SS.
crazyformercury guys used the Geo booster with stock MC say- repeated stops from 90 mph + with no drama at all.
I posted pics of install over at Fairlane club of America site
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That good that yours work so well , I will take a look at there site , The one in the picture I posted is for a 1965 Falcon.
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My 64 Fairlane is Manual disc/drum brake setup. And stops great, my 73 y.o Dad drives it regularly.

You could look at Scarebird for a way to go disc out front, using your factory spindles.

And for the rear disc, there is a guy on ebay that sells a kit and instructions to use crown victoria rear disc on the ford 8" or 9". Its a simple install. The junkyards are full of Crown Vics.

Also, You could use a master cylinder from a later model mustang that is disc/disc. Im running one in the 65 Falcon without a booster. No issues. I do have a Wilwood proportioning valve for the rear.

A few options to save a few bucks and still have good brakes.
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Looks like the unit I used on my Fairlane from Masterpower brakes. They sell the same unit for Falcons & Fairlanes. It fits both & works really well I am very happy with it. Have you considered a non adjustable combination valve? That is what I am using. No hassles with adjusting and unless your front & rear end have vastly different size tires there is no reason to hassle with an adjustable unit. Just get a disc/disc if your going to run 4 wheel discs or a disc/drum if your going to run drums in the rear. You can also convert a disc/drum to a disc/disc if you decide to upgrade to disc in the rear later on. Probably cost you less also than that fancy wilwood unit. If you look at my build thread that is what I used on my build and I have no issues. I would recommend no matter what brake kit you decide on to run stainless hoses though. The reason is not only are they safer from being cut, but they also don't swell. When you apply your brakes with rubber hoses they swell and that reduces your brakes effectiveness. That's why one reason why traditionally you tried to keep the rubber hoses to as short as possible in your braking system. With the stainless lines you get harder/faster applying brakes.

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Well here is a power booster / master cylinder combo that will work on my car



I think I may go with Rod & custom motorsports front and rear drilled and slotted disc brake kits with this power booster and if it will fit I will uses this proportioning valve.
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Yes it is the Masterpower Brakes unit , I will wait until I get the unit mounted to see what room I have before deciding on the proportional valve , Yes I am going with disc front and rear , Rod and Customs kits come with slotted and drilled rotor and stainless hoses as well.
I will look at your build tread( I think I have already , but I have read so many I may be mixed up ) I nice guys take the time with there build treads , it a good place to learn , so thanks for your time in doing so, I will start a build tread soon , once I have enough done and pictures .


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Looks like the unit I used on my Fairlane from Masterpower brakes. They sell the same unit for Falcons & Fairlanes. It fits both & works really well I am very happy with it. Have you considered a non adjustable combination valve? That is what I am using. No hassles with adjusting and unless your front & rear end have vastly different size tires there is no reason to hassle with an adjustable unit. Just get a disc/disc if your going to run 4 wheel discs or a disc/drum if your going to run drums in the rear. You can also convert a disc/drum to a disc/disc if you decide to upgrade to disc in the rear later on. Probably cost you less also than that fancy wilwood unit. If you look at my build thread that is what I used on my build and I have no issues. I would recommend no matter what brake kit you decide on to run stainless hoses though. The reason is not only are they safer from being cut, but they also don't swell. When you apply your brakes with rubber hoses they swell and that reduces your brakes effectiveness. That's why one reason why traditionally you tried to keep the rubber hoses to as short as possible in your braking system. With the stainless lines you get harder/faster applying brakes.
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MAGNUS1965 , seen this in you build tread, I take it that I would have to get this extension as well ? could you tell me were you got the extension ?


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Master Cylinder & Booster mounted to the firewall. Still need to hook the pedal up. The included rod was a bit short. I bought an extension & now I canít find the rod. Oh well it will turn up or Iíll get another.
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No problem glad it helps. It's also good for us as builders because it is a good record of what we did so if we have questions about what we did we can look back and see what we put down. This is the extension I used. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaf-all41027 If I recall correctly I ended up shortening the extension rod. I used an extension because I wanted the pedal all the way up against the stop when it's not depressed (I may be a bit OCD). It had enough room to apply the brakes before but the extension moves the pedal up so you will bottom out the master cylinder before the pedal hits the floor. I recommend it. I want to know I'm getting all the brakes I can. Not sure if it's a requirement though. Not a major investment anyway.

Disc's in the back are nice. I rebuilt my rear drums because drums work & I could do it inexpensively. If I planned to keep running the 8" forever I would have upgraded to discs. Since I am eventually going to change to a 9" (someday) to handle a power upgrade (400-500 HP someday) and get better gearing (3.50? or 3.70? vs. the 2.80 I have now) with limited slip (currently pegleg) I decided for now a cheap rebuild was the best bet.

The combination valve I used was included in my kit (or well it was supposed to be, they didn't package it & packaged a metering valve instead. I called and they fixed it by shipping me what I wanted) but is 3x the price of what summit wants for it if you buy from Master Power Brakes separately. From summit the part with the same specs for 4 wheel disc is this one. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-760185/ The adjustable units are for if you are running much bigger tires on the rear (pro-street type stuff or running really skinny fronts). I don't know how you're planning on building your car but unless you plan on back-halfing it the adjustable one will probably just be a headache with tuning it to get it right vs just installing it & having it work right, right off the bat. Going from your earlier posts it looks like your doing more of a resto-mod and it wouldn't be needed for that. That's just my opinion though & it's your ride & your cash.

BTW I've answered the question you asked in my build thread with my latest post there tonight. I appreciate your compliments. I'm looking forward to seeing your build thread so I can watch your car come along.


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MAGNUS1965 , seen this in you build tread, I take it that I would have to get this extension as well ? could you tell me were you got the extension ?


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Master Cylinder & Booster mounted to the firewall. Still need to hook the pedal up. The included rod was a bit short. I bought an extension & now I canít find the rod. Oh well it will turn up or Iíll get another.
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