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I truly hope by other than ford, you mean speed equip vendors and not GM, TOYOTA and Blue Pill Ads...
The main ad that has been on every page yesterday and today is for Dodge trucks. Imagine that, The industry leader in trucks is Ford and they are now running ads for Dodge on a Ford only site....nice move. I don't think many users on here want a Dodge truck. If we want a truck I'm pretty sure it will be a Ford.They are also running an ad for BMW cars on here. Sounds like the partys over. It looks like they have just dumped this forum into their normal ad rotation.

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The main ad that has been on every page yesterday and today is for Dodge trucks. Imagine that, The industry leader in trucks is Ford and they are now running ads for Dodge on a Ford only site....nice move. I don't think many users on here want a Dodge truck. If we want a truck I'm pretty sure it will be a Ford.They are also running an ad for BMW cars on here. Sounds like the partys over. It looks like they have just dumped this forum into their normal ad rotation.
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Is the price of annual membership going to change? How about free someday?
We don't foresee offering premier labor intensive content for free unless ad revenue justifies the costs. As we have always said, if you do not find value in the content, there's no obligation to support FordMuscle.com with a membership. It's our obligation to deliver the value first.

Are you still going to benefit if the site grows and maintains i.e. do you still have financial interest in it?
Yes, we still own and operate FordMuscle.com which consists off all non-forums content, the brand, and merchandise.

What can we expect in the future for article?
We are developing our strategy and content platform.

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With regard to non-forums content...[email protected]

Non-Ford automotive ads?
Our ad networks have always run Non-Ford and Ford automotive ads. I agree, it seems logical to run only Ford ads. Perhaps the logic is that Ford believes they already have your attention, the competition doesn't.

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There has been a lot of talk about the ads on the site. Mikelonis has pointed out that there has always been ads for other companies then Ford on here, it may only be because of the announcement that you are noticing this more then before.

If the biggest complaint that you are encountering is that you are seeing an ad for Dodge I dont see how this is so offensive compared to what you are served on most other forums on the internet. There is only speculation fear mongering that there will be ads for blue pills and free iPads and I have yet to encounter any of this.

As I have said before there have always been a lot of ads on this site and normally for autoguide.com sites we prefer to keep the ads to a minimum for members to focus on growing the brand of the forum and attracting more supporting vendors and showcasing the supporting vendors. Since to members here content is the most important thing on the site having postbit ads (ads between posts) can distract from reading the content. We have removed the postbit ads from members though they will remain for guests only.
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Is the price of annual membership going to change? How about free someday?
We don't foresee offering premier labor intensive content for free unless ad revenue justifies the costs. As we have always said, if you do not find value in the content, there's no obligation to support FordMuscle.com with a membership. It's our obligation to deliver the value first.
I never could see paying 19.95 for a membership here when there is so little new content provided by FM. Most articles are written by the members of the forum that FM gets for free. The members are doing most of the work. There's some dude with FM that writes about his red Ford truck in Reno and that's nice but I don't know anyone that cares about him swapping out his old Ford bench seat for a bench seat with a console from a Chevy. This is Ford Muscle, not Ford trucks. This site has lost it's way. I remember when the guy that started this site (can't remember his name) would be a Sac raceway all the time with his fox body testing all sorts of stuff and then write about it. I haven't seen him in years or anybody else from FM for that matter.

So for 19.95 I get access to a few new articles now and then and a pretty steady flow of articles from the members (thank you members) two decals to help you advertise your site and a sticky backed plaque to put on my car, no thanks. If I'm going to help you advertise your business, you should be paying me. You guys have done a poor job with the main site, so the only reason I come here is for the forums, which you have now sold.

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There has been a lot of talk about the ads on the site. Mikelonis has pointed out that there has always been ads for other companies then Ford on here, it may only be because of the announcement that you are noticing this more then before.
How long has this site been running ads for Dodge trucks?

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Also when do we get to post avatars? This is the only site that I know of that doesn't allow them.

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Also when do we get to post avatars? This is the only site that I know of that doesn't allow them.
This was already on my list.
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IMost articles are written by the members of the forum that FM gets for free. The members are doing most of the work.
To set the record straight, a large portion of the articles you find in the Tech Exchange were performed by contractors paid for by FordMuscle.com (dazecars and F15Falcon). The others we're incentivized through the one-of-a-kind program not seen anywhere on the web where contributions are rewarded with merchandise and cash.

Rick Devito (FATNFAST) was also a paid contractor who managed most of the program by communicating with contributors and working diligently to format, edit, and track what you find in the Tech Exchange.

To conclude it simply created itself with no monetary investment, labor, or creative effort, is a 100% false assumption.
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This was already on my list.
O.K. Great, look forward to it. Thanks

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To conclude it simply created itself with no monetary investment, labor, or creative effort, is a 100% false assumption.
I never said that, so please don't put words in my mouth. I know that you give contributors a t-shirt with one submission, a hat with three and $100 with 6 or more articles. So yes I was wrong in saying that your getting the bulk of the articles for free.

But lets be honest here, Giving away a t-shirt or a hat and at 6 articles and above your paying 16.66 per article to the members, is almost for free as compared to paying a full time office staff to do the work. I would be willing to bet there have been more than a few that have submitted 3-5 articles and never got the $100. SO it seems to me that your getting the articles almost for free. And when you consider that they are advertising for you for free by wearing you FM t-shirt or hat, then... you are getting the articles for free.

So wheres the bad azz articles on bad azz Fords that we come here for. I don't see them anymore.

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Damn, I donated back my $100 for my tech articles to help the little guy out just about a month ago. If I had known I would have taken it. Hopefully my lifetime membership is still good? Or is that part of the change too?
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Damn, I donated back my $100 for my tech articles to help the little guy out just about a month ago. If I had known I would have taken it. Hopefully my lifetime membership is still good? Or is that part of the change too?
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If you still want your $100, you can take us up on it. The Tech Exchange Program will be sorted out. Details will follow as we work with autoforums.com. Please remain patient as we make the transition.

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Seems like most of the complaints here are about the way FM used to be. If that is the case, then maybe we should welcome the new owner.

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Whats up with the Dodge and Jeep advertisement that I'm seeing on this ford web site, is this part of things to come ???????????? WTF am I going to see Honda and Toyota advertisements to ??????? Ill never spend my dime on a frickin web site that advertises any thing but Fords ! I have always praised this web site, but there are a lot of good Ford web sites out there !

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