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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-08-2014, 08:51 AM Thread Starter
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67 galaxie drop spring height?

Hi when I first got the car it was on stock suspension and riding sky high (especially at the rear) . I only had the stock 14'' steel rims at the time so i cut the springs and dropped it to the floor.

I am now ready to continue with the car having worked for a year on the engine and would like a more 'muscle' look, with 15'' torque thrust II's and raised white letter BF Goodrich's.

I definitely need to raise the car up a bit, but i still want it to be lower than the crazy high original, and try to stay more level front-to-rear.

Could any of you 67 owners advise me on what springs i should choose for this look? Dearborn classics sell 1'' 2'' and 3'' drop springs, so do most people do a 2'' front drop and 3'' rear for the muscle look?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: 67 galaxie drop spring height?

Granted mines not a 67 but a 66, I'm dropped 3 front 2.5 rear.
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Granted mines not a 67 but a 66, I'm dropped 3 front 2.5 rear.
That's interesting does yours not sit massively tail high as I currently have 1 3/4 coil cut front and 2 1/2 coil cut rear and although low even still tail high!

Will post pictures when I get back home
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Re: 67 galaxie drop spring height?

Usually on 67"s the rear wheels are slightly tucked under the rear quarters to begin with. Then the front will be lowered just enough to give the car that"rake" look. In your case I would lower the rear first to what ever height your looking for by either cutting the coils or finding some drop coil springs. Once you figured out your rear height, it will be a lot easier to figure out the front. In your case it sounds like you need 4" in the rear and 2" in the front.
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Re: 67 galaxie drop spring height?

I was wondering my 67 has pig tail springs in the back. I already cut a coil out of the front but it still needs to be lower on both ends. Did you cut the pig tail spring and if so how did you go about doing it, or does yours have regular coil springs out back?I was always told you can't cut a pig tail spring. I was looking at ordering the drop springs but if I can save some money and cut the rears some how that would be great!

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Usually on 67"s the rear wheels are slightly tucked under the rear quarters to begin with. Then the front will be lowered just enough to give the car that"rake" look. In your case I would lower the rear first to what ever height your looking for by either cutting the coils or finding some drop coil springs. Once you figured out your rear height, it will be a lot easier to figure out the front. In your case it sounds like you need 4" in the rear and 2" in the front.
I unfortunately cannot do this unless I buy some more stock springs and ship them to UK as mine is already cut!

My springs were flat ring one end and pig tail the other, you can cut the pig tail end as that still leaves a pig tail spike, but not the flat coil end, as if you cut the flat off it then leaves a pig tail.

Mine went roughly 2" down per coil I chopped off and settled much lower on front after a few weeks!

Have most people just left theirs at stock ride height then? Is putting lower stiffer performance springs not a regular common option for 67 owners?
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Andy, lowering the 67s is an option and if you use the search function you will find many threads on the subject. IMO whether to lower or not is determined by each owner and the look they like the best. Some like the stock look, some like it lowered and some like it raked. FYI, 65-67/68 cars are the same frame so what worked on one should work on the others.

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That's interesting does yours not sit massively tail high
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Re: 67 galaxie drop spring height?

On my 67 galaxie someone converted the front brakes to disc brakes from a later model ltd and the front sits higher than the back. Is there a difference in spindle position on drum vs disc. To me they look the same but I'm no expert. Any help would be appreciated
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Re: 67 galaxie drop spring height?

I have a 65 with a 67 chasse. I replace the front drum to 69 disc., which the height is the same. I put 2" drop springs in the front and the rear I put air shocks and raised the rear 24" from the ground to the bottom of fender. This gave me the ride height I wanted. I agree with other the ride height is what you want. The bad thing about cutting springs, it loses it strength. With lowing spring you keep the strength
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Re: 67 galaxie drop spring height?

What is a drop spring? How does it differ from a stock spring?

I would like some new springs, lower and stronger than stock and though, as one poster said, there are many threads about it, after five or ten years looking at them I still don't have an answer I feel confident about.

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Re: 67 galaxie drop spring height?

When springs are produce they have factory spec for the car. When they produce drop springs the spring stays at the orgin.spec, except they press it down to what ever drop you want. it still have the same strength. Eaton springs is the way to go.
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What is a drop spring? How does it differ from a stock spring?

I would like some new springs, lower and stronger than stock and though, as one poster said, there are many threads about it, after five or ten years looking at them I still don't have an answer I feel confident about.

A so called "drop spring" is a spring manufactured or a created spring modified by cutting to a shorter height than the O.E.M. installed spring.

A manufactered spring will carry the same weight but allow the chassis to sit lower. If you could measure your car spring under load @ 18" and then install the manufactured spring designed to be 1" drop it would measure 17" tall under same load. You can buy lowered springs with higher or lower spring rates.

A cut spring takes a bunch more knowledge and tools to get right. Springs are a long bar rolled into a coil. The longer the bar or smaller diameters of the rod the softer the spring. So, if you think cutting off 1" in height (loaded or un-loaded) of the spring will get you there, think again, the spring is getting stiffer the more you shorten it. And the spring might now have different load ratings side to side, ie 975 rt side 903 left side.

Best to buy drop spindles or a new set ofo springs designed to lower your model of car. In any case, you will have to get a re-alignment. Toe in will increse and bump steer will be a very important factor.

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Re: 67 galaxie drop spring height?

I bought my springs here:
http://www.eatondetroitspring.com

I started with -2 and ended up with -1 all the way around (on a 63.5)
It's an even look — I have a little taller tire in the back giving it a slight rake.

-2 tucked my front tires more than I liked, where -1 sits visibly even with the wheel arch.
With 15x8 wheels (TT's) zero rubbing.

In the back I upgraded from the factory 4-leaf to the heavy-duty 6-leaf pack. The rear is a lot stiffer now—like a tank. no more wobbling about in turns and over bumps at speed.

If I did it again, I'd still get the 6-leaf upgrade–but I'd probably just go with Eaton's stock height option—I think it's a lot lower than what you have experienced—especially if it's just 1" higher than what I have—which would fit the car perfect, with just a mild wheel arch gap. The more I look at these cars, the more I like them sitting higher. The Super Stock look is pretty sick too, which they can also make for you, +1, +2, etc.

good luck. you might have to change them out a couple of times to get it perfect.
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My 67 sits pretty low on stock springs. I put rims from an 09 mustang with 245/45/17 on front and 275/40/17 on back. The back sits lower than the front does. When i put the new wheel/tire combo on it dropped the car 1 1/2 to 2 inches. Just know you can get a drop from wheel/tire combination as well. The stock wheel and tires were quite a bit taller than the combo I have now.
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