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when i use to do them on mini's I would attach them to the dore panel side. or if you have that option put it in a lower part of the door that will clear the glass and just run a new line or cable to get your pull? Did you get any poppers for it. i know with 35lbs on a s10 will kick the door out about 4 inches.
They fit nicely and clear the glass where shown. I wanted to use the door handle mechanism to open and tested the range and clearance before fabricating the mounting plates. I did buy poppers for this install but am concerned about the doors opening too far. Will have to test that at a later date.

When you used the poppers, how far where you able to get the doors to open? Far enough to make them stay open?
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yes you can set the amount of force about a foot.. also depends on the weight of door..
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yes you can set the amount of force about a foot.. also depends on the weight of door..


Seen adjustments can be made to adjust tension. Unsure I want to drill holes to simply test whether or not to use them. Cross that later down the road.
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If you remember, I had someone ([email protected]#$%^&) hit and run Ethel just before I could get her over to the restorers.
Rear quarter and decklid repairs are going well.
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Another modification I wanted to do was to get rid of the square gas cap lid. I felt it just doesn't fit the car. Every picture I've ever seen of my car or other Galaxie's online, the gas cap lid stood out like a sore thumb. I bought a round weld-in style hidden gas cap to install where the square gas lid was originally. Here are some initial pics of it tacked in place.
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When I have done the shaved door handles in the past I have never had to use poppers. The pressure of the door seals always kicked them out enough. You only really need enough to get your hand in there to open the door, and in my experience it always did.

I use those gas caps to do flush mount caps when I do motorcycles. While I like your idea that cap has a crown to it, IMO you would need to flatten that cap out, preferably by machine, or it will stand out worse than the gas door. The cap itself is aluminum so it is soft and could be sanded. Just my opinion. Here is a pic of that cap that I used.
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When I have done the shaved door handles in the past I have never had to use poppers. The pressure of the door seals always kicked them out enough. You only really need enough to get your hand in there to open the door, and in my experience it always did.

I use those gas caps to do flush mount caps when I do motorcycles. While I like your idea that cap has a crown to it, IMO you would need to flatten that cap out, preferably by machine, or it will stand out worse than the gas door. The cap itself is aluminum so it is soft and could be sanded. Just my opinion. Here is a pic of that cap that I used.
Yeah, I think I'm scratching the poppers. Your the third person that has the same thing now and I really don't want the doors opening up all the way. Glad for all the opinions from others before drilling/cutting on a car.

We stood by the car once it was tacked in and looked at that cap. We both just looked at each other and said, "the top". It was that easy. Now it's been filled, moved and installed. Like it much better. Keeps the side of the car even cleaner now that the handles and locks have a ready been shaved
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thats a neat cap, looks great up top too. is there a drain around the recess for spillage/water drainage, and does it include a section of filler neck pipe, or is it hose connected? very nice work!

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thats a neat cap, looks great up top too. is there a drain around the recess for spillage/water drainage, and does it include a section of filler neck pipe, or is it hose connected? very nice work!
Thanks ford4v429,

That was one thing we did talk about when we decided to move it on top. There will be a small drain tube added later at the neck that will have a small hose attached and run out of the bottom for the water that could collect at the top.

I wanted to use pipe instead of hose due to it running inside the trunk area. Wanted no issues at all when it comes to fuel and/or fumes. The pipe added was not bent in any machine, It was cut in several places to mold the shape needed and then refilled (welded) to fill the cuts once the correct shape was formed. I've added a few initial pics I took shortly after the install.

The new filler tube meets the tank filler tube inside the wheel well, where it is then joined by a small section of hose. This way any future tank repairs can still be done if needed.
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Really like the work you are doing. The cap up top looks good. The whole direction is....... I don't know what to say, I just like it!
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Really like the work you are doing. The cap up top looks good. The whole direction is....... I don't know what to say, I just like it!
Thanks nytling92

Direction? Not sure of that myself. Was all about original when I first bought this car but over the years decided to do some changes. Obviously.

The guys at the shop are the ones with all the skills making this happen for me for the most part.

This car will end up having "custom 500" badges on the front fenders and on the passenger side dash location (painted red background behind the 500 fonts) once it's finished since it will definitely be custom.

I laid out what my dash will look like on my original wooden template used for fabricating my dashpad. Not set in stone quite yet but close.
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I like the pop up gas cap...
are you adding some type of drainage to it as well..
looks like it will collect water around cap every time you wash car or rain..
some ends up in tank each time when removing cap....

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I like the pop up gas cap.
are you adding some type of drainage to it as well..
looks like it will collect water around cap every time you wash car or rain..
some ends up in tank each time when removing cap....

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thats a neat cap, looks great up top too. is there a drain around the recess for spillage/water drainage, and does it include a section of filler neck pipe, or is it hose connected? very nice work!


Thanks ford4v429,

That was one thing we did talk about when we decided to move it on top. There will be a small drain tube added later at the neck that will have a small hose attached and run out of the bottom for the water that could collect at the top.

I wanted to use pipe instead of hose due to it running inside the trunk area. Wanted no issues at all when it comes to fuel and/or fumes. The pipe added was not bent in any machine, It was cut in several places to mold the shape needed and then refilled (welded) to fill the cuts once the correct shape was formed. I've added a few initial pics I took shortly after the install.

The new filler tube meets the tank filler tube inside the wheel well, where it is then joined by a small section of hose. This way any future tank repairs can still be done if needed
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yeah I missed that...
too busy looking at the pictures...lol

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yeah I missed that...
too busy looking at the pictures...lol
It's all good.

I like the new location myself. The drainage tube we'll add later should work fine.

We also added a small section of straight pipe just below the new weld-in cap so the gas nozzle would easily rest inside the filler tube while filling it up with gas. If not added, I would of had to hold the gas handle/nozzle the entire time while fueling.

Prime example of the small (but big) things the experienced shop guys bring to the table.
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