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Cool 390 rebuild for 67 Galaxie - will these pieces work together?

Any issues with these pieces going together?

Block:
- Came out of a 1973 Dually
- 390 FE = Mirror 105D3TE = 1973 Truck

Heads:
- Truck heads - #D2TEAA / 203 / 4E2 - (1972 I believe)

Pieces from another 390 FE Block (352 31) :
- Pistons(C6AE), I will get it bored out to fit the .30 over
-*Crank

I will purchase:
- Edlebrock Performer RPM intake
- Edlebrock 4bbl carb
- Edlebrock Cam

Looking to put this in a 67 Galaxie 500.

Thanks in advance for any tips/tricks!
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Re: 390 rebuild for 67 Galaxie - will these pieces work together?

I have a D4TE mirror and it drops in just fine. Don't know about 1972 heads though since I believe Ford quit putting them in cars that year, they will probably work though the compression will be truck level, like maybe 8.4. You might have to trim the Intake where it abuts the A/C bracket. I question that your 352 pistons will fit. Here is a little chart I made once
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Re: 390 rebuild for 67 Galaxie - will these pieces work together?

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Any issues with these pieces going together?

Block:
- Came out of a 1973 Dually
- 390 FE = Mirror 105D3TE = 1973 Truck

Heads:
- Truck heads - #D2TEAA / 203 / 4E2 - (1972 I believe)

Pieces from another 390 FE Block (352 31) :
- Pistons(C6AE), I will get it bored out to fit the .30 over
-*Crank

I will purchase:
- Edlebrock Performer RPM intake
- Edlebrock 4bbl carb
- Edlebrock Cam

Looking to put this in a 67 Galaxie 500.

Thanks in advance for any tips/tricks!
Patrick
First, I would be sure you have a 390 crank and rods, post numbers off the crank and the rods and we can verify
Second, the D2TE-AA heads will work, but it depends what you intend to use for exhaust and should probably get a little work done to the intake.

-Springs - The 2 piece retainers and stock springs are horrible, heavy and prone to float. Best to upgrade to a spring and retainer package designed for the cam

- Exhaust - The D2TE-AA has a low exhaust port and is almost identical to the C8AE-H and C7AE-A. If you run iron exhaust manifolds, no issues, but if you run headers, you HAVE to make sure they are correct for the 390GT exhaust port. It's not only how many bolts, it's where the port is located as the gaskets won't seal if you run the wrong header combo.
- Intake - The D2 head is a small raised port, similar centerline to a medium riser, but smaller in every direction. The RPM intake is just slightly smaller than a medium riser port but larger than the D2. It would be best if you opened the intake to match a 1247S3 Felpro or Mr Gasket 202A on the head side.

Second, if the cam is the small Performer Plus, it's a nice cam and should do well in a Galaxie. It's smooth and runs well, but not a big power maker. If its the Performer RPM, it's rowdy and won't be fun in a stockish 390. There can be better cams out there but at the power level, that Performer Plus is a good easy to break in cam and similar to a 428CJ.
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... if the cam is the small Performer Plus, it's a nice cam and should do well in a Galaxie. It's smooth and runs well, but not a big power maker. If it's the Performer RPM, it's rowdy and won't be fun in a stockish 390. There can be better cams out there but at the power level, that Performer Plus is a good easy to break in cam and similar to a 428CJ.
Patrick, I had recommended the Performer Plus cam. My427stang, with those heads and cam, better with the Performer or the RPM? I've read your opinion before about the Performer, but this will be a stockish engine.

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- Exhaust - The D2TE-AA has a low exhaust port and is almost identical to the C8AE-H and C7AE-A. If you run iron exhaust manifolds, no issues, but if you run headers, you HAVE to make sure they are correct for the 390GT exhaust port. It's not only how many bolts, it's where the port is located as the gaskets won't seal if you run the wrong header combo.
These headers will work (I have these on my 64): Ford Powertrain Applications
65-70 Galaxie F.E.352-428 Shorty
A- F.E. Series include 352-360-390-406-410-427-428
B- F.E. Available in 16 bolt C.J./ 14 bolt GT/ 8 bolt Std. flanges
C- Manual & power steer applications
E- Will clear Quick time bellhousings
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These headers will work (I have these on my 64): Ford Powertrain Applications
65-70 Galaxie F.E.352-428 Shorty
A- F.E. Series include 352-360-390-406-410-427-428
B- F.E. Available in 16 bolt C.J./ 14 bolt GT/ 8 bolt Std. flanges
C- Manual & power steer applications
E- Will clear Quick time bellhousings
That is correct, assuming he buys the correct flange (Note B). I think FPA is the only company that makes the low exit headers for anything other than truck application. Sanderson shorties may work, but they have to be flange seal, not welded ring

Depending on the long term plan for the car, may want to consider a high exit head (C4AE, etc) if you may want to go aluminum head someday, then you buy headers only once
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Patrick, I had recommended the Performer Plus cam. My427stang, with those heads and cam, better with the Performer or the RPM? I've read your opinion before about the Performer, but this will be a stockish engine.

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Well, good comment for discussion. The RPM is so much better of a manifold, that it tends to make up what it should lose down low due to plenum and port size. With this kind of build, assuming he was never planning to rev over 4500, the Performer 390 may do a tiny bit better with torque, but as RPM climbs higher, even in a mild build, the Edel RPM will overtake it quickly. I just haven't seen any benefits for the Performer 390 other than weight savings or carb location (the RPM sits the carb back further a little)
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Re: 390 rebuild for 67 Galaxie - will these pieces work together?

My427Stang,

I am finally at the point of putting headers on my 67 Galaxie 390 and have a few clarifying questions.

Based on the info you provided, I understand that the FPA headers will work on my low exhaust port heads(D2TEAA). They are pricey at about $1000 per set.

If I went with a Sanderson Headers, are we sure they will fit low exhaust port heads and the car? No exhaust leaks? Also, what is a flange seal vs a welded ring?

As always, thanks for the info!
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My427Stang,

I am finally at the point of putting headers on my 67 Galaxie 390 and have a few clarifying questions.

Based on the info you provided, I understand that the FPA headers will work on my low exhaust port heads(D2TEAA). They are pricey at about $1000 per set.

If I went with a Sanderson Headers, are we sure they will fit low exhaust port heads and the car? No exhaust leaks? Also, what is a flange seal vs a welded ring?

As always, thanks for the info!
Patrick
Patrick, I wish I knew, I have never used Sandersons, but I have heard, they the seal on the entire flange

Flange seal means that after they welded the header together they machine the whole flange flat, or they weld from the outside of the tube. That allows the entire flange to compress the gasket and seal.

A welded ring is more common, they weld the header tube from the flange side and the bead is then machined. When you tighten the headers, that ring pinches harder on the gasket than the rest of the flange. It seals real well, unless you have mismatch, then exhaust can travel where the ring is unsupported, but because the ring is there, the rest of the gasket can't be fully compressed. Make sense?

If the Sandersons are machined flanges, worst you could have is a little mismatch, but it should seal up tight. Sorry I don't have more info about them but I generally build for the long tube header guys. FYI most FE headers are welded ring, but I heard the Sandersons may be different

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Here is a welded ring


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