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A shrinking elite of Arab rulers gathered for their delayed annual summit in Tunis Saturday, May 22, amid a shared sense that it might be their last. Out of 22 Arab League members, thirteen were represented by gloomy heads of state and three by prime ministers. The others sent junior representatives instead of attending for what used to be a striking demonstration of unity and strength by a powerful world bloc.

Libyan ruler Muammar Qaddafi stayed half an hour into the opening session, then got up and left. He thus showed his opinion of the occasion that was grandly billed as a show of regional unity on the occupation of Iraq, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and political reform in the Arab world.

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Is that good or is that a bad thing?


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I think it's good, divide & conquer




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I heard a snippet of a speech that John Kerry delivered recently where he said that he would go to the Arab governments and demand that they increase oil production. I hate these high gas prices as much as anyone, and my love for Arabs is pretty low as well, but it is THEIR oil. They don't have to sell it to us at all. I don't think we have the right to demand anything in this regard.
I read some of the resolutions that were proposed or that did come out of the Arab meeting and by and large I didn't see anything that was unreasonable. Of course they condemned the latest actions by Israel and called for Israel to cede all land given to or taken by Israel in 1948 and 1967. I know the Seven Days War in 67 netted Israel a chunk of land (the Arabs started it) but isn't 1948 the year that the UN basically created Israel as a Jewish state? I support Israel's right to exist and take their side on most every issue. It sounds as though the Arabs are again saying that their will be no peace until the Israelis are pushed into the sea.
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When you provide the military power behind the freedom to set oil prices...then we do have some right to ask, tell, demand...however it is phrased, shouldn't matter...the point is, most of the OPEC member states depend on the good will of the other nations to respect their borders and sovereignty.

Saudi Arabia, found that out when "Sad Man" Blitz-ed across the border for a little shopping a few years ago.

Having the "right" to do something doesn't necessarily mean the "Will", "ability" or probablity if success necessarily follows.

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I'm mostly just thinking in script here ... simplistic stuff ... Don't be to harsh on me for it not being "more substantial"

Here in America the efforts of a huge portion of the population are required in order to create the wealth which makes our economy tick. We must create a good or service with our hands and/or minds for the most part.

In many of these Oil Producing Countries a very, very small portion of the population can pump enough wealth, in the form of "Black Cash", from beneath Mother Nature's deserts to make entire countries financially sound. (As a side note ... We think we have "The Rich" and "The Poor" here, we don't hold a candle to these Arab oil producing countries when it comes to that line of thinking)

I would almost compare it to some kid being left a ton of money, which he is required to do very little to nearly nothing to take possession of and use. The problem with that comparison is it only covers half the bases ... These countries have an immense source of cash flow which requires little effort to produce, but on top of that, they have the leverage on the world created by the control of the product it's self.

As for the idea of Israel being eliminated dissipated or otherwise knocked off the edge of the Mediterranean Sea. Yeap, you bet, that's exactly the plan for many of these powers Yasser Arafat, Bashar Assad, Iran, Al Qaeda and nothing less is acceptable.

I know I harp on that old post "The Third Jihad" but there in lies the story ... regarding the land, the oil and the destruction of Israel ... and eventually the destruction of ALL NON BELIEVERS.

Believe it.

Now ... What to do about it may be open to debate, but the denial of it and the failure to act will at some point ... get millions of people killed very quickly.

And no I'm not painting the entire Arab race as all BAD ...

But ... the core of this issue emanates from there ... and there is where you must do the dealing in order to find a solution. The attendance at this Arab Summit would indicate they are NOT all on the same page.

As with Johnny Ray ... I'm not certain if that's a Good Thing or a Bad Thing ... but it does appear to be a reality.

OK ... I'm done for now.




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