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My 78 Trans Am, 400 4sp wasn't to shabby.

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The 255 went away in 1982. The 84-85 LTD LX used the 302.
Yes, there was a time (1980,81) when the 255 ci was the Mustang's top V8...

The early '80s Crossfire Trans Am would be a rare version these days, although I believe KITT used the much more common 4bbl 305.
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Yes, there was a time (1980,81) when the 255 ci was the Mustang's top V8...

The early '80s Crossfire Trans Am would be a rare version these days, although I believe KITT used the much more common 4bbl 305.

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As for obscure, where'd all the EXPs go? Talking about a 2 seater AMX made me think of the EXP which is no comparison otherwise but I never saw many of them.

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I have a 1983 Mercury LN7 RS with 1.6 HO that I bought brand new. It was my first new car, so when the motor died, I parked it in the back of the garage. It's still back there under a pile of boxes. Someday I plan on putting a small block in it with mini tubs and a four link rear end.

Yes, those early Fox bodies cars were interesting, like this '79 Mustang Cobra with 2bbl 302 (140 hp) & metric TRX rims.

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Yes, those early Fox bodies cars were interesting, like this '79 Mustang Cobra with 2bbl 302 (140 hp) & metric TRX rims.
The LN7 and EXP were not Fox bodies. Those cars were dressed up Escorts with FWD and little 4-bangers. The 79-86 Capri was a Fox body.
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The LN7 and EXP were not Fox bodies. Those cars were dressed up Escorts with FWD and little 4-bangers. The 79-86 Capri was a Fox body.
True, my bad, getting confused in old age, lol. That rear C pillar treatment between the Fox and Escort is close, making dressed up versions like the LN7 RS look similar even though they are smaller.
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The most obscure muscle I have owned would be a 1966 Sunbeam Tiger, essentially a 4-banger British convertible (Sunbeam Alpine) with a factory installed Ford 260 V8 2v under the hood (164 hp). Ian Garrad enlisted Carroll Shelby to help with the conversion. The Tiger would cut a mid 13sec 1/4 unaltered. This car was known as the "poor mans Cobra" and only about 6000 were made before Chrysler bought out the "rootes group", the Sunbeam parent company, and killed the line because they couldnt stand to sell a car with a Ford mill. Mine had a mild cam, headers and a 4bbl. A Tiger was most recently seen in the "Get Smart" movie. I hated to sell her but had to due to bills. I now have a 67 Alpine (Same body, without the rack and pinion and setback firewall) in the garage waiting for a 302 transplant.



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How about the 66 Olds Toronado? My folks had one that they had come across( they sold used cars at their gas station) Theirs was white with black int. We lived in Montana and it was the "winter car" You could be on glare ice and punch it and not spin a tire! 455c.u., front wheel drive,(the first for a US manuf.) automatic trans, and that really cool speedometer that rolled!

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Almost as good as the car in The Wraith..almost.


thats either the Aspen or the Volare. a buddy of mine has one. pretty fun car.
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Ford SHOGUN

Korean made Ford Festiva with a Japanese made Ford SHO engine mounted in the trunk.... Gotta love it. Shame there were only 7 made.

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Ford SHOGUN

Korean made Ford Festiva with a Japanese made Ford SHO engine mounted in the trunk.... Gotta love it. Shame there were only 7 made.

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Yup... and Leno has one! These were not actually factory cars, they were a "tuner" concoction. I think they were supposed to be used in some kind of racing series that didn't quite catch on. They were trick, quick little devils ... Now if you really want to make'm get up and go - slide in a .92 turbo. Then we's having some real fun.

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How about the 66 Olds Toronado? My folks had one that they had come across( they sold used cars at their gas station) Theirs was white with black int. We lived in Montana and it was the "winter car" You could be on glare ice and punch it and not spin a tire! 455c.u., front wheel drive,(the first for a US manuf.) automatic trans, and that really cool speedometer that rolled!
I love that car. Common problem with every car of the period was that they were nose heavy and thus poor traction, but with the Toronado it had the motor right over the drive wheels which made for good traction, like a Porsche 911 in reverse!

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A rare ride I would like for Christmas, a Grand Prix with special NASCAR nosecone. Apparently the car maker paid people to drive them around so the NASCAR officials would think there were enough of them out there for qualification. Whether that's true or not, it's sharp looking in blue.

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A rare ride I would like for Christmas, a Grand Prix with special NASCAR nosecone. Apparently the car maker paid people to drive them around so the NASCAR officials would think there were enough of them out there for qualification. Whether that's true or not, it's sharp looking in blue.

Sorry for the thread necro but I found this thread in a Google search and had to correct this glaring error. This car pictured is NOT any kind of Pontiac. It is a Chevelle Laguna S3. You can clearly see the S3 badge in the lower right of the grill and on the fender. In case there is any doubt, here is the same pic from the Wikipedia entry

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I think the car you are thinking of is the Pontiac 2+2 from the 1980's, which would be this car.





This car was Pontiacs version of the Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS Aero Coupe.

If you want to see an almost unheard of muscle car, though, here it is



The 1977 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale Indy Pace car. 403 Oldsmobile big block under the hood and only a couple of thousand made. Some didn't have the Pace Car billboard on the doors and most were repainted by the dealers either all silver or all black because muscle cars weren't selling in the gas crunch days. Most people who have ever had one probably never even realized it because of the respray.

I can also tell you that the 403 Oldsmobile is one of the most under appreciated engines from that time period. I had a next door neighbor with a 1977 Bandit Trans Am with the 403 and that thing ran every bit as fast as the same car with a 400 Pontiac. In fact, if you look closely at the Trans Am in the first Smokey and the Bandit movie you'll notice it says on the shaker "6.6 Litre". That is GM speak for the 403 Oldsmobile. The 400 Pontiac cars say "T/A 6.6" on them.

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