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"Mirror 105 FE"

Anyone know anything about these blocks? I have seen the blocks marked "352" but when I got my 390 it didn't have the common 352 markings. I found a similar block to mine on e-bay that they are calling a "mirror 105" block.... supposedly are reinforced or so the listing says.... Any FE guys out there that can shed some light on these?

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Re: "Mirror 105 FE"

They're HD truck blocks...'73ish somewhere in there..

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Bumblebee here is a list of all the FE blocks you can match your block with these numbers I believe it's a 391 truck motor they had reinforced webbing.

http://www.fordification.com/tech/ca...rs-FEblock.htm


I went looking on the web and this is what I found out about the mirror 105 block.

("105" simply indicates it was cast at the Michigan Casting Center, a new Ford foundry which came on line in 1972 and was up to speed by 1973. You won't find ANY FE items with the 105 number prior to this date, and ALL were cast at MCC.)

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Re: "Mirror 105 FE"

Thanks guys... I thought the block might be a 62...looks like a 72 instead. Heads are 64 Galaxie.


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That's a fairly desirable block. The main webbing has an additional rib for more strength. The cylinder walls are likely thicker than regular passenger car block. No guarantee though. And the distributor hole may be larger, necessitating a spacer to use a regular passenger car distributor.

It's a good block to have.

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They will take an .080" over-bore (428) which says alot for an FE motor!
When the racing world was low on 410 blocks and didn't want to use over-bored car 390's, this was what they used...(makes a great 406ci too)

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This guy on E-Bay must think an awful lot of them....... he wants $950 each for bare blocks....... I tink he be smokin crack man.

Ford HD 390 D3TE D4TE Mirror 105 Engine Block Tested - eBay (item 260698024716 end time Jan-23-11 12:50:14 PST)

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$950 for a friggin 74 truck block? what a galoot.
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Hmmmmmmm Paulie..........
Didnt know about the possible larger Dizzy hole... will have to measure it out... Where do you get the "spacer" and what might it be called?


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OK..... Good news..
Just looked up the distributor for a 65 Galaxie 500 and a 72 F100 both with 390 and they are the same part number... so no worries about the hole. (block is a 72)


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This may help - FT vs FE. If in-fact it is a 391 rather than a 390, you may have to make some decisions. And, yes, the FT distributor is different.

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Thanks for all the info guys. This was a running engine prior to my tearing into it... The plus on this is that the FT blocks apparently had forged steel steel rather than cast cranks although it looks like there were some other differneces relating to the crank, heads etc. Thanks PSIG for the link to the wiki... useful information. I see what you mean about the distributor Plovett. I will need to check the pilot hole in the block to see what I can find out.

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Thanks for all the info guys. This was a running engine prior to my tearing into it... The plus on this is that the FT blocks apparently had forged steel steel rather than cast cranks although it looks like there were some other differneces relating to the crank, heads etc. Thanks PSIG for the link to the wiki... useful information. I see what you mean about the distributor Plovett. I will need to check the pilot hole in the block to see what I can find out.

Thanks again.

Keith
I think the FT cranks had larger snounts so it would have to be turned to use your regular car front pulleys...Probably not worth the hassle unless its an all out race motor..


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They will take an .080" over-bore (428) which says alot for an FE motor!
When the racing world was low on 410 blocks and didn't want to use over-bored car 390's, this was what they used...(makes a great 406ci too)
Isn't a 390 and a 410 the same bore?


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Isn't a 390 and a 410 the same bore?
Yes, but that wasn't the point....I could have said it better
Given the choice ( it's not like you're going to get many used standard bore 390's ) the strength of the block is the advantage.

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