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Junkyard Electric Radiator Fan in 64 with a 302 ?

Is there an electric fan assembly that will drop right in to a 64 Falcon without major mods? OEM Aluminum radiator ?

I am swapping my Inline-6 with about 300hp 302 with T5. My local pic-a-part has tons of Ford, GM & Mopar for cheap.


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Re: Junkyard Electric Radiator Fan in 64 with a 302 ?

i think someone here used a ford Taurus unit .....cant remember who..

%201964%20Galaxie/?action=view&current=09-03-10_1408.jpg Lars...
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Re: Junkyard Electric Radiator Fan in 64 with a 302 ?

Waid,

My 64 Fairlane has a Autozone 16" electric fan, with a Painless wiring relay and temp sensor. Never overheats.
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Re: Junkyard Electric Radiator Fan in 64 with a 302 ?

check out this post....that may help in your quest.....

Ford Muscle Forums : Ford Muscle Cars Tech Forum - View Single Post - Junkyard Upgrade - Dual Electric Fans

%201964%20Galaxie/?action=view&current=09-03-10_1408.jpg Lars...
64 galaxie 500 2dr fastback...390 4v, Bendtsen adapter, maddog's stage3 700R4 trans,3.70 Posi..far from perfect but getting there...
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Re: Junkyard Electric Radiator Fan in 64 with a 302 ?

I could not fit a junk yard fan in my 64 Falcon. only have a couple inches between pulley and radiator. They make dual fans that will fit..

"Tell it like it is or don't tell it at all" 1964 Falcon 2dr HT, 347V8 4V, dual exhaust, 5sp, pwr assist R&P steering, AM radio, heater with defrost and 2sp fan, electric windshield wipers, cigar lighter, dlx light group, bucket seats, console and full carpet.
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Re: Junkyard Electric Radiator Fan in 64 with a 302 ?

The Taurus wagon works really well, it pulls alott of air let me tell you!
I;m using a Flexalite Soft start controller, which ramps the fan up slowly to avoid spikes to your Electrical system , plus its fully adj. to the temp u want the fan to kick in.
Flexalite comes with all the wiring, relay, control box.
The shroud, u have to trim it to fit, take about 1/4" or so off the face.
I welded a threaded fitting at each corner, drilled holes in shroud & bolted it to the rad,
Had her in traffic at 90 degrees, no problems at all
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Re: Junkyard Electric Radiator Fan in 64 with a 302 ?

You must have more room than I do, anyway I haven't needed one so far with 4 blade fan and brass radiator no shroud car barely gets over 160.

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with a Painless wiring relay and temp sensor. Never overheats.
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Re: Junkyard Electric Radiator Fan in 64 with a 302 ?

The problem with the Falcon (and others of those years) is the 17-inch radiator support opening. With a radiator core only 16+ x 17, it's hard to find a factory dual electric setup that small. The larger 24-inch "big block" core radiators will fit Contour and Taurus-type dual setups, but the extra width is of little benefit unless the support is opened-up. Still, a wider radiator will get the same flow as the old one, so the width is wasted (unless the support is opened) but it will get the same flow as the old one from the old opening. I wouldn't run a wrecker's radiator, but new replacements for something close are out there cheap, such as '87 to '04 Jeep Wrangler.

If you can't run a mechanical fan, and you need duals to clear your pump, the wider radiator or a pusher setup would be options. Check carefully for clearance off each side for the BB rad, and you'll need to use different rad brackets to install it. I have a thread here somewhere showing a set of brackets I made for an aftermarket aluminum rad, and there are a number of ways to do it. Again, wrecking yard alternatives are there for the looking, such as late-model V8 Mustang.

I would suggest a universal 2-row aluminum radiator with 1-inch tubes. A double-pass version would put both the inlet and outlet on the right side for easier plumbing if you have a pre-'70 water pump. Alternatively, a GM-style setup with a top-left and lower-right will do well if you don't have belts in the way of your upper hose. If you have a '70+ water pump, then a generic Ford/Mopar-style (top right, lower-left) should be easiest. Any of these options should be under $150, to as little as $75 for a new universal radiator. My 2.

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I would suggest a universal 2-row aluminum radiator with 1-inch tubes. David
I'm running the small universal like this from Jegs. About $150 as I recall and it fits perfectly. I however am not a "fan" of of electric stuff - way too many fit issues with such limited clearance in the Falcons, plus I always had issues with them not pushing enough air. I finally gave up and went with a aluminum Flex-a-Lite fan and a custom (not expensive) shroud. My car makes pretty good power and will run 160-170 in almost any condition. It did peak once at almost 200 but that was a very hot and humid day and I was stuck in a car show entrance line where we were moving at a snails pace for 45 minutes. If you can find a good electric fan set-up that:

a) Fits in the tiny space you have available
b) Moves enough air to cool your engine proberly
c) Doesn't cost a small fortune

I'd say go for it. But in my experiance it was too much hassle. Mine works great, is ultra realible, uses over the counter and easy to repair or replace parts and never blows a fuse!

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... I however am not a "fan" of of electric stuff - way too many fit issues with such limited clearance in the Falcons, plus I always had issues with them not pushing enough air.
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+1. There is usually no compelling reason to run electric, other than it's 'trick', you're trying to save 5 hp at 6500 rpm, never have slow driving (stop-n-go, parades, etc.) or are looking for that last .2 MPG on the highway. The down-sides to electric are several, and though a successful setup obviously can be done, it will be far more expensive and complicated. If you have 2", you can run a fan that will move more air than most any electric. Every solution has it's pros and cons. Note that offroad vehicles like rock crawlers never use an electric setup - if there is a choice. I would suggest using whatever fits the situation best.
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