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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-17-2012, 09:13 AM Thread Starter
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My 352 heads

Since I'll be boring out the block .050 to a 390 I wondered if it would give much benefit to port out these C4AEs and maybe put in bigger valves.

For one thing it does not seem like there is much room in the depression for bigger valves. Plus increasing the intake from 2.03 to 2.09 is only a 6% increase.

As far as doing some grinding, as a first timer I would not want to be too challenged. Are there 3 or 4 areas that give the most benefit? And how much would that be, like another 6%?

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Re: My 352 heads

I haven't ported FE heads, so I can't give specific advice. What I would bounce back to you is, "what do you intend to do with the motor?" Bigger valves in an otherwise stock rebuild will offer limited benefit. However, if your intent is to build the motor, that would be a different matter. Do you have any other specifics?
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Re: My 352 heads

It will be a strong streeter, medium cam, 3.5 rear. Looking for 5000 rpm and 350+ HP. Wondering if I should spend my dough on headers or heads. If heads, well, that's what I'm asking.

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Re: My 352 heads

I would go headers first if you plan on going any larger than an RV cam as I would bet that is going to be your bottleneck in the system.

And I would see what very simple things you could do to port the heads on your own. Not necessarily a full-blown race port, but maybe a little blending at the ports. I'll try to do a little searching on the subject and let you know if I find anything.
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Re: My 352 heads

I'm by no means an expert on FE heads, however, the main constriction on the FE exhaust manifolds/heads is the angle of the exhaust ports. The back half of the engines exhaust ports is angled towards the front, therefore if your running the traditional "log" type manifolds, the exhaust pulses always fight each other. Depending on what the end result of your engine build is, this could be the constricting point of the build. The 6% increase your referring to is actually a little skewed. You must remember that this increase is during lift thus you have a conical type shape (surface area of cone) that has to take into account the angle of the seats/valves when doing the % increase. Here again, size of valves is directly related to camshaft you will be running and what the end result of the engine build is, i.e. operating RPM. There is always trade offs. When picking headers (if there are more the 1 option), the same criteria stands. Rather it be shorties, full length, tri-y's, etc.
Luckily you dont have the thermactor type heads that have the bumps in the exhaust port. One more thing to keep in mind, the exhaust port locations changed with the emission styled heads, post 67 (if memory serves). Emission style heads raised the exhaust ports in the heads approximately 1/4", thus if/when looking at headers, keep this in mind. Just because it has the correct bolt pattern, doesn't mean the ports will neccessarily line up. This makes for sealing the exhaust flange nearly impossible.
If you decide to port, best advice is to get a junked FE head to experiment with. Jo-Anns Fabrics (or similar craft store) offer a putty that you can mix together pour into the intake and exhaust port and make a removable/flexible mold to get a visual idea of what exactly your dealing with. Then you can have an idea of where the main constricting points in the runners will be.
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