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post #271 of 280 (permalink) Old 01-18-2017, 10:28 AM Thread Starter
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Re: 67 Mustang Coupe

Finally, success! I have a good clutch release. Add this to the long list of parts I have had to fabricate to build this car.
Over the past month or so, I have tried several methods of hydraulic clutch actuation, with marginal success.
My least two favorite options I knew would work, but both have thier drawbacks.
My strongest desire was an external slave using a cable type fork and throw out bearing...seemed easy, as your just swapping a hyd slave to push on the fork, vice a cable pulling it.
The benefits of that would be all external hydraulics, coupled with the modern throwout bearing that can ride on the pressure plate without burning up the bearing. But the Quicktime bell is too tight for this setup.
Next was the external slave pulling on a old style mechanical fork and bearing. This required modifications of the fork to get the ratios right, and took some trial and error. This options is still external hydraulics, but having minimal throw out bearing clearance, trading off for clutch throw, and reduced throw out bearing life.
I started with both big block and small block forks, the working combination was a small block fork, cut and bent back 5 degrees then welded to get the correct angle to the crank centerline. Then I drilled it, starting at the factory linkage dimple, then two other locations at one inch increments to provide various fork ratios. The factory linkage location didnt give me quite enough bearing travel, so one more inch in gave me the higher ratio and release. I checked my air gap on the dics, and actually have more than the recommended .020, so Im good.
I' ve got plenty of room between the header and slave, but wrapped it up in some thermal wrap just to keep the juices cool and save the o-rings and seals.
This has been the most daunting phase of this build, but I finally got it figured out with the help, advice, and parts from some really great fellow stick shift racers, it now works. Just amazed folks who I never met, like Dennis 11 who I only know through various forums sent me parts to try, free or "if it works for you, well work something out". What a bunch of great dudes in this sport and hobby.

Once it was all hooked up, I gave it the Op test, I even pulled gears clutch less with it, smooth as silk. Nothing is sweeter than dropping non synchroed transmission in gear and not feeling a scrape or bump, then just pulling the shifter to change gears.

Now I can set my clutch disc air gap, pedal linkage and pedal stop, start installing the drive shaft safety loops, exhaust and finally wrap this up, moveing onto front end alignment and installing the seats.

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521 BBF-Solid Roller -Kaase P51 Heads-Victor-AED Dominator - Jerico DR4, Long Inline Shifter.
Shortened & Mini Tubbed. Strange Nodular 9, Spooled 4:56, Mark Williams Axles.
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post #272 of 280 (permalink) Old 01-20-2017, 07:51 AM
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Car sounds Great!
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post #275 of 280 (permalink) Old 03-22-2017, 05:43 AM Thread Starter
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Finally got the backseat narrowed to fit between the tubs, cut a total of 3 inches out of the seat back and base, thanks much to Dennis for the help! Rigged up a nice little clutch pedal stop!
Carpet is in, seats are in.
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Project 521 Gydyup - 67 Mustang Coup
521 BBF-Solid Roller -Kaase P51 Heads-Victor-AED Dominator - Jerico DR4, Long Inline Shifter.
Shortened & Mini Tubbed. Strange Nodular 9, Spooled 4:56, Mark Williams Axles.
"old School - WWDD"
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post #277 of 280 (permalink) Old 03-22-2017, 05:49 AM Thread Starter
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Made my own alignment turn plates and toe bars, picked up camber/caster gauges from Speedway, and set the alignment. Want to go back and eliminate the bushing type strut bars and install mechanical or heim types, next project. Keeping the pit crew employed here.
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Project 521 Gydyup - 67 Mustang Coup
521 BBF-Solid Roller -Kaase P51 Heads-Victor-AED Dominator - Jerico DR4, Long Inline Shifter.
Shortened & Mini Tubbed. Strange Nodular 9, Spooled 4:56, Mark Williams Axles.
"old School - WWDD"
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post #278 of 280 (permalink) Old 04-19-2017, 08:11 PM
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I love my MDL linkage and other parts!


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post #279 of 280 (permalink) Old 05-05-2017, 07:59 AM Thread Starter
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I have not been to the track yet, two things holding me up...big one, I'm waiting for my trailer. Buddy of mine ordered a nice box trailer for his Nova, so I am getting his open one...soon as he gets his, I get mine.


The other, wanted to get rid of the rubber bushings strut rods and got to solid/mechanical mount adjustable rods.
Two things on a Mustang that are loosy goosy, well three if you count the steering box, are the camber eccentrics and caster settings with the rubber mounts. You can align it, and it takes very little to knock it out of alignment with these two substandard suspension components.


My man Dennis put solid adjustable strut rods on when he upgraded to the 67 front under his 65, normally when Dennis does something, I pay attention. He is the one who turned me onto Rose hill and Open tracker...


Lots of sources out there if you want to spend 300 to 500 bucks. Daze has a neat way of making them, if you have a 65-66 and some of the specialized parts needed for the clevis, and TIME to make it . Not sure if I want to use the cast steel clevis on this build though as Dennis noted, they take a lot of abuse on a drag car. On a street car, more than fine.


Rosehill performance in Texas has the best price on them, 250 for the whole kit for all early Mustangs, except the 67 which has a unique one off lower control arm bolt pattern, of course!


I generally try to make my own stuff anyway, unless the time trumps the cost, and in this case it was darn close. Daze method certainly takes more time..so I did a little of both. I picked up the frame ends from Rosehill for 125 bucks, picked up a couple of swedge rods from Speedway around 30 bucks, and made my own LCA endlink adjusters. Daze method of turning the endlink down and threading it is the way to go, but on the 67 and up, they flatten the rod and you cant do that. Again, you either gotta by the link or make it. Except the 67, they don't make the endlink for that year kit. You CAN replace the 67 LCA with a 68, and your good to go, but I have just bought all new front end parts, so I saw the additional cost of LCAs and labor as another driver to make my own links vice replacing LCAs.
For the LCA link, I used flat 3/8 bar, scribed the center lines, laid out the bolt pattern for the LCA, drilled those...then drilled a series of 5/8 holes down the link end, and used a cutoff wheel on a angle grinder to form a 5/8 slot.


I took all my measurements for the layout from my stock ones and off Daze site, I cut the head off a 5/8 grade 8 bolt, used a 1/8th slotted alum flat to center the 5/8 bolt in the 3/8 plate, tacked it, then used levels and calipers to center it, and tacked and checked, then welded it up. I put a steel collar on the end of the link just to cap off the link and stiffen the bolt to link area.


I measured the distance from the rear LCA bolt to tie rod stop and angle of the stop on the stock rods, lopped those off the stock rods and ground to fit and welded the tie rod stops onto the new ones. You could easily use a cut off 3/4 bolt. I have them on, look awesome, now just to align it ....again.


Lesson learned on these, I opted for the lighter Chrome molly swedge rods. They don't have flats on it for turning with a wrench, so I may take them to have a nut tiged to one end...but buying the swedge, look for GOOD ones, but also having flats to turn aka Caltrac bars.
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Project 521 Gydyup - 67 Mustang Coup
521 BBF-Solid Roller -Kaase P51 Heads-Victor-AED Dominator - Jerico DR4, Long Inline Shifter.
Shortened & Mini Tubbed. Strange Nodular 9, Spooled 4:56, Mark Williams Axles.
"old School - WWDD"
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post #280 of 280 (permalink) Old 09-13-2017, 05:09 AM Thread Starter
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Slapped a new pan on this puppy, old 8 qt was too deep for my ride height, so went to a 7 qt road race kick out.. NICE PAN, pickup is surrouned in a dam with one way flaps to allow oil in, and keep it.

This pan is a front sump, but uses a rear sump type pump, luckily my Kaase pump is configured either way, so all I had to do was have Kaase swap out the base plate getting rid of the deeper front sump port. Yeah, I could have done it myself, but the new base was 100, and Kaase would put it on, dyno the pump for the same 100, no brainer. Love those guys.

Did this on car, so it was a bit of a challenge, had to modify the splash tray to clear the pickup, since I couldn't maneuver the pan much to clear it and snake it on.

I use the one piece Milodon gaskets, always use a skim coat of ultra gray on the block and pan side, and I made these little clips to hold the gasket up until I got the pan on, then they pull out...one of my better ideas. Felpro makes plastic studs, but they are pretty cheesy and don't hold the gasket up tight to the block. Also they are long, so with my tight fit on the maneuvering, not a lot of good to me.

All good, no leaks...
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521 BBF-Solid Roller -Kaase P51 Heads-Victor-AED Dominator - Jerico DR4, Long Inline Shifter.
Shortened & Mini Tubbed. Strange Nodular 9, Spooled 4:56, Mark Williams Axles.
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Looks great, I've read the whole topic and that's an amazing project you got here. Recently my buddy from DSRLeasing asked me to take upon a project of my own, but I still feel hesitant for now Cheers
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Looks great, I've read the whole topic and that's an amazing project you got here. Recently my buddy from DSRLeasing asked me to take upon a project of my own, but I still feel hesitant for now Cheers

Don't fear, learn...get after it. This is my 6th Mustang (all 67, 68s and one 70). But this is by far my most aggressive and invasive build.
I was hesitant as heck, never did a lot of this stuff before...but the good folks on this site and others as well as FB forums have provide invaluable insight, directions, parts and encouragement. Dennis 11 is one of the biggest helps I have had, my tag line WWDD, is What Would Dennis Do..there is a lot of Dennis in this car. Take a look at 65MUSTANGGT and you will see the similarities, but he is still out there...man never stops improving and making better.


Project 521 Gydyup - 67 Mustang Coup
521 BBF-Solid Roller -Kaase P51 Heads-Victor-AED Dominator - Jerico DR4, Long Inline Shifter.
Shortened & Mini Tubbed. Strange Nodular 9, Spooled 4:56, Mark Williams Axles.
"old School - WWDD"
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Thanks for encouraging words :P I still have some time before I would get into it, but what do I have to lose really? Thanks
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