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Old 02-05-2014, 06:33 PM Thread Starter
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Re: finally a build thread on my 63 Fairlane

I think I have it all figured out for fitment. I need to do some metal work on the hood latch support bat but not an issue. I have a few lines in the water for intercoolers but no bites yet. I just need to know if this compressor will work with the vintage air systems. I think I just need to work the lines for it but it should keep the pressure up. They have only compressors for added brackets and such and I don't see any brackets to mount theirs in the factory Mark location.

I did get this in the mail today. 31 spline 27" for the shortened 8.8.



The 4 link should be here any day now.

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Old 02-06-2014, 05:36 PM Thread Starter
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Re: finally a build thread on my 63 Fairlane

The 4 link came in today.







Now I just have to wait for some decent weather. It's been below 0* for the past few days now and too cold to get out in the garage. I really can't wait till I have my heated shop next winter.

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Old 02-07-2014, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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I got the wiring harness in today. It was in the 30's but still too cold and my back is not up to the task of laying under the dash today. My garage time is coming soon!!!!




I also pressed the studs into the new axle.

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Old 02-08-2014, 05:53 PM Thread Starter
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Re: finally a build thread on my 63 Fairlane

After a hour of searching, I realized, I'm missing the pinion yoke. WTF???? Seems it was put in the bed of the 57 F100 I just sold a few days ago when we had it in the back and it was never removed. I don't have the guy's number. Guess I'll be looking for another one. You can see it missing in the pic below. I was still able to verify pinion angle because I verified the face of the housing was level with the flange before I took it all a part. So, I got the pinion in as much as I could, put the diff together with the axles in place and the discs on for proper final spacing and after 2 hours of going from side to side verifying angles, level and straightness, I got the rear in place and ready for bracket fitment.





So, tomorrow, I'll tack the brackets to the axle and the frame and then work on the upper. I have about 1.5" or clearance for the driveshaft to the tunnel. I'm goig to go ahead and give it another inch or so from raising the hump. Setting the rear ride height at 7 and 3/4" and the front at 6 and 1/2" I'll get the ride height I want and a little more clearance for the driveshaft. The clearancing is mainly for the future bags. What you see will be the final rear ride height.

I wish I got over to the welding shop to get some steel for the subs. I have to wait for the week now. It's slowly coming along. My back and feet are yelling at me but I got something done!

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Old 02-09-2014, 10:01 AM Thread Starter
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Re: finally a build thread on my 63 Fairlane

While setting the 4 link in place and trying to get the geometry right, I find myself in a spot I'm unsure of. I have the lower bar at 1* down to the axle and it'll almost ride level once on the ground at the raked ride height. The problem I have is the upper bar. I am sure the angle is not an issue from the frame inwards. I'd love to go more but have a cast iron center section and the angle inward in the pics below is right at the frame to the inner most part of the axle I can go to. The one concern I have is the upper angle from the top of the axle mount down to the frame where it's such a drop. Is there anyone out there with suspension geometry knowledge that can tell me if this will wreak havoc on my pinion angle or bind heavily? I will be lowering the car as far as the suspension will allow before it hits something. THat's with a bag setup.

What do you guys think about these angles in the pics below???






Desperately waiting to finish this up but want to do it right.

Thanks guys.

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Old 02-09-2014, 10:16 AM Thread Starter
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Would it be good to put the axle side mounts down on the front of the tubes like these in this pic or will this have any axle wrap issues?


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Re: finally a build thread on my 63 Fairlane

There are some pretty sharp suspension guys over at Pro-touring.com
Maybe join over there and do some reading and ask for some help.
They have a suspension section.

What are your plans for mounting of the brackets to the body?

Your 4 link kit looks like a Ride Tech universal kit. If it is, I'm sure they could help you out.

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Thanks. I found a few threads of theirs in searching. I'm still looking around but might migrate over and search their list.

It's a knockoff of Ride Tech's kit. Half the price and the same size material.

I have to build the frame rails out a bit to meet the brackets since the Fairlane frame rails back thee are angled. Not a problem. I want to put fresh metal over the old stuff there for support and reinforcement. Then I'll tie it all into the sub frames when I get them.

Thanks for the info.

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I don't see anything wrong with the side to side angle on the top bars. Thats creating a triangulated 4 link and can negate the need for a panhard bar. It will probably create a giant headache when you try to run your exaust tho.

I'v never tried ot build a 4 link that was meant to turn a corner, but on a drag car that extreme downward angle is gonna make the rear want to squat on accelleration and it prob wouldn't hook worth poo. Hacking into the floors and losing rearseat room so the top bar has a reasonable angle is one of the limitations to a street 4 link.
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I searched all over and found on Protouring as suggested. The setup with the upper axle mounts on the front of the axle is good to help against squatting and also brings the bars to just off of level. It seems I lucked out with the design and layout on this setup. I'll go ahead and put the uppers like that and see how it does.

The triangulated 4 link works great in a street car. I've had a few Fox mustangs setup for autocross and they were excellent with the tubular setup triangulated. As for the exhaust, I'll be running a single 3" which might prove a problem. I'll tackle that issue when I get to it. It'll be tough to get it tight when I want to drop the car on the bags.

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Re: finally a build thread on my 63 Fairlane

A few guys are going under the axle with the exhaust when running that setup.
I snaked mine through above with 2.5". It still needs some tweeking when I get it back out this spring.
Worse case I will get some V band clamps and go under the axle.
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Re: finally a build thread on my 63 Fairlane

Dave,

You may be able to build or buy the cradle from TCI from their Triangulated kit for the Falcon. I know it wont be the right size for your car. But, give some you direction.
It has provisions for the upper control arms and for the Coil over upper attach points.

I can email you some pictures of it, if your interested.

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Not sure I am aware of the one you mentioned. If you don't mind pics, I'd love to see more ideas. I looked at a few from Mustang rear kits. They have the front cross bar with incorporated shaft loop. Though it's a nice design and would surely make things easier, I'd have to dig into the back seat for it because the loop would be all in the seat cushion because the shaft is already too tight up in there. The fab savings would be negated by tearing the floor all out and incorporating that bar. I have to clearance an inch of the shaft spacing at least anyways. I don't want to go any higher or the interior starts to suffer.

I played with the bars some and I agree that I will just put the upper mounts on the axle at the front of the tubes. That will give me just about 1.5-2"" of down slope on the bar and that's supposedly a good compromise for squat/traction on a street car from what I'm reading. That will also ensure I have more room for the exhaust to go over the axle too if I split it to two 2.5" pipes or oval a single 3" one. I can do that and drop it on air bags and still have it tight up between the frame rails. I just have to be sure the shock bar is not in the way now. I'll get back to it this coming weekend. Thanks.

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On another note, I have to rant. I looked at the Street Rodder mag with a 64 Fairlane that has a KR500 5.4 in it. I liked the car until I read the article and found that each aspect of the car was done at some different shop. It doesn't say the owner did anything to the car except paid the bills. How is there pride in that? I'll have a friend paint mine but I'm paying by doing engine and suspension work for him. I feel bad enough just having him do that for me.

Not a fan of that type of build. I like seeing all of you guys do your work and enjoy doing it myself.

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TCI Engineering ~ 1-800-984-6259 ~ American Made Street Rods, Hot Rods, Classic Trucks, Ford & Chevy Muscle Cars Suspension and Chassis Parts. 1” upper & lower 4 link bars with stainless adjusters Greasable urethane bushings Triangulated bolt-in cr

It's not a great picture on their website. I have better pics at home.

But the upper cradle doesn't affect the floor or rear seat area other then drilling some holes and adding a doubler to the inside under the seat. It also bolts through the frame rails and to the factory shock holes.

You can also download the install instructions on their website. It has some pictures in it.

Will see what pics I have.

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