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03-20-2019 07:33 AM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

At this point it's only about his engine, he has said nothing about his car. My comment is very generic and true. Your just trolling and didn't even answer his question, I'm not scared to be wrong on a hp estimate in fact I hope I'm way low but you haven't had the balls to answer his question directly.
You just here to criticize without putting any thing in in the first place, that's a troll. Truth is you a know it all hot head that doesn't know what he thinks he does.
I'm curious what does your 306 make for torque @ 3000 rpm and what's the peek torque? It must be a decent number if infact your Mustang is that fast.

I'm a person that doesn't mind admitting when wrong as I have thinking he had 2v iron heads as I did in this post. But I never said that he should change his cam.
I said iron heads need more duration to make power.
[
QUOTE=Iowan;1629576621]375 or so at the crank is what I'm thinking, add more duration and lift if you want power, 250 @ 50.. Iron heads need more duration to make power.
Good luck[/QUOTE]
03-20-2019 07:18 AM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

This was in response to your coment, its compleatly true. The thing I found suprising is you had no response for him until I put mine down, the forums are full of trolls.
I see no advice to him from me.

I use cams with 250 duration @ 50 in my street motors , they idle at 700 rpm and have 90 percent of there peak torque by 2800 rpm, no race craziness here.02-10-2019 09:13 AM
03-20-2019 05:47 AM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

You can't show me the sentence that I told him to put a bigger cam in his eingine because I didn't.
03-20-2019 05:18 AM
n2omike
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

Post 4 and 7 of this thread.

He gave his complete combination... Then you started hyping 250 @ 0.050" cams, and how he'll need one to make power, and how they work so great in street cars, and how they idle just fine at 700 rpm. (complete bullsquat)

It's mis-information and bad advice.
03-19-2019 08:50 PM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

Why don't you quote the sentence that I recommend the cam, make sure you get the one in front of it and the one after so you don't take it out of context.
03-19-2019 08:47 PM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

Double post
03-19-2019 08:32 PM
n2omike
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

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This is were you lose credit with me and why I say you don't know as much as you think you do. You might not be able to build power like this but it doesn't mean it can't be done. You have an opinion before you know the facts and that's bullsquat.
The times in my sig are from a factory block, crank, rods, pump gas compression, a flat tappet cam, and only 306ci... through a stock toploader and a 200hp nitrous plate. When you can run 9's with a similar combo... or basically ANY combo, I'll listen to what you have to say. Until then... it's all 'car show' sh*t talking.

And, the cam in my car is significantly less than 250 degrees @ 0.050".

And, when you say I 'twisted' your words... After he posted his combo, you recommended 250 @ 0.050" for more power. It's simply a bad recommendation, and doesn't match the rest of his combo AT ALL. He would literally need to change every single part of his drivetrain to make good use of a cam like that. I simply do NOT tolerate mis-information and bad advice.

Why did you drag this post up from out of the grave, anyway?
03-19-2019 07:56 PM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

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Unless it's 450+ cubic inch, I'm calling Bullsquat.
This is were you lose credit with me and why I say you don't know as much as you think you do. You might not be able to build power like this but it doesn't mean it can't be done. You have an opinion before you know the facts and that's bullsquat.
03-19-2019 07:32 PM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

Like I said you are twisting words and trying to make it something it's not, I reread his and my posts and that's not what I was saying.

He asked about horsepower not a package and I gave him an opinion on horsepower, nothing more nothing less.
But if that's what if it takes for you to feel good I really don't care what you think.
03-19-2019 05:13 PM
n2omike
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

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Your twisting my words a bit, I said if he wants more power he needs a bigger cam..period
Next if your going to say my 289 is bs you have very little information on it to be calling anything bs. You don't know the compression ratio, cam lobe separation or centerline or lift, flat tappet or roller, rod stroke ratio or fuel type so your blindly calling it bs. Like I said you don't know what you think you do.
I've got race motors with 280 and 290 duration @ 050, now those are race motors.
Not getting into a pissing contest. You recommended a cam with 250 degrees @ 0.050" for a 10:1 street car with an 11" 2400 stall converter and a 3.50 gear. That was WAY off. What he has right now is pretty much dead on for his combo.

280 and 290 @ 0.050" would be full race for an engine with 500+ cubes... and would make nothing but noise in a smaller engine. But, I thought you said you didn't even race???

If a person wants to impress the 'car show' crowd with a lumpy idle 'hotrod' that won't get out of it's own way.... sure.... install a [email protected] 0.050" cam in a 351ci 10:1 engine with a tight converter and 3.50 gear. If you want it to actually RUN good, do great burnouts, and actually WORK with the rest of the combo, what he has matches up really well. A bigger than what he has will require more car, more intake, more compression, bigger exhaust, looser converter, more gear, etc. It all needs to work as a well matched combo.
03-18-2019 07:38 PM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

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I choose all the parts for my car, build the engines, build the transmissions, build the rear ends... and have helped choose combinations for many of my friends' cars over the years as well.

If YOU would take a 351 cubic inch 10 to 1 engine with a dual plane intake, 2500 rpm stall converter and 3.50 rear... and install a 250+ duration @ 0.050" cam... you might need to look in the mirror when making the above statement.

My street car is only 306ci, has an old nitrous plate from the 90's, and runs 9's. It is pump gas when naturally aspirated, and is only spun 6,800 rpm. Engine has lasted for YEARS, and doesn't get babied. It's also has a stock toploader 4-speed and uses small 9" slicks at the track. It is 100% designed and built by me. I also ported the old first generation 170cc twisted wedge heads that are on it. BTW, the cam is a solid flat tappet... and measures significantly less than 250 degrees @ 0.050". A 363 slated to replace it when this one gets tired is designed to spin a solid 7,500 rpm if not a bit more.. and it's cam comes in just under 250 on the intake.
Your twisting my words a bit, I said if he wants more power he needs a bigger cam..period
Next if your going to say my 289 is bs you have very little information on it to be calling anything bs. You don't know the compression ratio, cam lobe separation or centerline or lift, flat tappet or roller, rod stroke ratio or fuel type so your blindly calling it bs. Like I said you don't know what you think you do.
I've got race motors with 280 and 290 duration @ 050, now those are race motors.
02-10-2019 10:37 PM
RobSweden
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

Hello

I had a friend punch in the numbers in a computer simulation program and it ended up around 435-450 hp at the crank. I Think around 400-410 should be realistic. As soon as spring comes Il try to take it to the dyno. I Think the FMX should at least take away 20% or so.

Regards Rob
02-10-2019 06:36 PM
n2omike
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

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Originally Posted by Iowan View Post
Maybe you don't know as much as you think you do.
I choose all the parts for my car, build the engines, build the transmissions, build the rear ends... and have helped choose combinations for many of my friends' cars over the years as well.

If YOU would take a 351 cubic inch 10 to 1 engine with a dual plane intake, 2500 rpm stall converter and 3.50 rear... and install a 250+ duration @ 0.050" cam... you might need to look in the mirror when making the above statement.

My street car is only 306ci, has an old nitrous plate from the 90's, and runs 9's. It is pump gas when naturally aspirated, and is only spun 6,800 rpm. Engine has lasted for YEARS, and doesn't get babied. It's also has a stock toploader 4-speed and uses small 9" slicks at the track. It is 100% designed and built by me. I also ported the old first generation 170cc twisted wedge heads that are on it. BTW, the cam is a solid flat tappet... and measures significantly less than 250 degrees @ 0.050". A 363 slated to replace it when this one gets tired is designed to spin a solid 7,500 rpm if not a bit more.. and it's cam comes in just under 250 on the intake.
02-10-2019 04:55 PM
Iowan
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

Maybe you don't know as much as you think you do.
02-10-2019 11:26 AM
n2omike
Re: 351c 2v CHI Heads what Hp/TQ

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I use cams with 250 duration @ 50 in my street motors , they idle at 700 rpm and have 90 percent of there peak torque by 2800 rpm, no race craziness here.
Unless it's 450+ cubic inch, I'm calling Bullsquat.
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