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03-21-2007 09:24 AM
Randall
Finally found a Ford forum

Solidlifters,Welcome to FM .

I've enjoyed these stories.

Keep'em coming
03-21-2007 04:51 AM
SolidLifters
Finally found a Ford forum

Here's another tale on my '67 500 Shelby:

A friend tansplanted here with his job, who knew I was an old car fanatic called one morning and asked if I was interested in a Shelby. He said the guy had had it since less than a year after it was new and it was in his old home town. He said people had tried to buy it for years and the guy never would sell it, but now his wife had laid down the law about wanting to move and the car maybe represented a down payment. He told me what he'd been told the previous night that the guy wanted, and we went by the bank and got money, hooked up the trailer and off we went on a several hour trip.

When we pulled up in the yard, the Shelby was sitting in the back yard. It had been repainted once in the original dark blue and had stripes (not factory available on a '67, but installed afterward by many dealers and owners). I was told it had the original motor, but it had a Hurst shifter, headers and some other subtle changes, but otherwise was completely intact. We reached an agreement on price, yanked it on my trailer with a winch and off we went. The guy was extremely upset about selling his pride and joy and I was sad for him.

I got it home and put kits in both carbs, drained the tank, stuck a battery in, and it cranked right up. It sat around my office for a while, sometimes going outside during the day, and drew a lot of attention. The paint was awful, but the car didn't have a bubble anywhere and appeared to be accident free, save for a previous front end bump that probably required the fiberglass to be replaced down low, because the radiator support had a bent place. Anyway, a dealer stopped by and wanted to buy it, but I wasn't interested. He kept on and I threw him what I thought was a "get out of here" price and he left. Several months later he called back and asked if I still had the car. I told him yeah, but still didn't want to sell. He said, but you'd still take XX for it? I said nope, now it's XXX. (up about another 25%) He thanked me and that was it. Several more months go by and the guy calls again with same question and once again I raised the price even more 'cause I just plain out didn't want to sell it. I think it was about the 3rd or 4 time in the sequence that several more months went by, he called and got a higher price that he finally said, will you still take that tomorrow. Next day he shows up with a cashier's check and bought my car. I was pretty much sick over it, but had serious storage issues at the time and really needed the room. He actually just flipped the car to another broker in Atlanta.

So about 6 months later I was at a show and ran into a local new car franchised dealer who likes old cars too, and almost always has a project around. He asked me if I didn't have a Shelby. I told him that I'd sold it recently and had seriously regretted it. He said he'd recently bought one from a doctor in Atlanta who'd had it for about 10 years. I told him I'd like to come by and admire his car. When I walked in the door I knew it was mine. He'd had it for about a month already and had already stripped paint and taken it mostly apart, (it's a wonderful thing to have a full staff of mechanics) but some of the characteristics of this car were unmistakable, including the forementioned bent core support. I also asked about the Hurst shifter, which was very unusual, even for a Hurst. THEN I went and got a picture of the car as it left me on the trailer and of course he recognized the awful paint that had still been on it when he bought it. These old car dealers'll tell people anything to make a good story on a car, but the "doctor" who supposedly owned it for over 10 years either never existed or resold it probably in 10 days.

My friend did a bare hull resto on it, and even though his details weren't what would be considered a concourse restoration (he painted underneath black instead of red primer for instance), cosmetically the car was nice, it was rust free, dent free, and arrow straight when finished. I told him that when he got through with it I'd like to have it back if he ever decided to sell it.

About another year goes by and the phone rings. My buddy says he's found a Coddington Rod that he wants to buy and was thinking of selling the Shelby. I went and bought it back immediately and when I've been asked about it since I don't fool around with what I think is a high price, I just tell em to watch the obituaries and then they can buy it from my estate, but until then it's home.
03-20-2007 03:21 PM
indigo66
Finally found a Ford forum

You're not the only one who likes 'em. I get a kick out of hearing older guys talk about 'the days'. I feel like I missed out on a lot of good stuff, but I'm sure there was plenty of bad back then too. I remember when I met Ray..turns out he knew my dads cousin (apparently he was called "Snake", correct me if I'm wrong Ray), from a shop he used to run in Macon. Then the stories came, haha, good stuff. The only thing I remember about his shop was from when I was a little kid, maybe 4 or 5, my dad was driving by there, wasn't much left but a big walker muffler sign hanging on the front. I wish my dad would have grabbed the sign, wouldv'e been kinda neat to have.
03-20-2007 02:07 PM
SolidLifters
Finally found a Ford forum

It was Mike. I don't know Mitch as well, although I've met him too.

Here's the long story:

I usta' have a tire store/muffler shop that we worked on my old cars when we weren't busy with customer stuff. A lot of my old junk sat around there. One day this black guy from Eatonton comes in and was looking at several of em, and he said "my dad has a 64 427/425 Galaxie that he bought new. (this was in '80's). I didn't really believe him, but he gave me his dad's phone number so I called it. I asked if he had the car and he said yes. I asked if he would consider selling it and he said it really wasn't for sale, but I could come look. (I took this as a maybe) So I drove to Eatonton sometime soon and there it sat under a tree. It looked to be all there, but there had been the typical "somebody tried to start it after the carbs had dried up and set it on fire. It had burned the air cleaner element and wires and there was a big burned place in the hood paint. I asked him again if he'd sell it and he said he didn't really want to, but what did I think it was worth. I told him a couple of thousand. (remember........... mid '80's). He said he'd think about it. So several months go by and I called him back. He said again that he didn't REALLY want to sell it, but if he did he thought it oughta be worth a little more. I said, what about 3500? He said again that he'd think about it. Several more calls and similar responses from him took place over the next year or so. Finally I offered him 7500 on the phone, which I thought was HUGE money for it back then and he said it wasn't for sale. Mitch was in my store one day and I was spinning all this story to him and he got REAL interested in the car. He asked where it was and I wouldn't tell him. Anyhow, Christmas came that year and we were headed to Athens to visit relatives, and figured I'd swing by the ole' guys house and ask about the car. We were late leaving and I skipped it on the way up, figuring I'd stop by coming back. Same thing coming back, after dark and just decided to come on home. Several months later I decided to call again and got the wife on the phone. She said he'd had a stroke and she'd sold the car sometime after the first of the year............... for about half what I had offered. I've always figured that if I'd stopped on the Christmas trip that I may've ended up with the car.

I found out later that Mike had bought the car. How in the hell he found it up there I'll never know, but he did his detective work and got to the right place at the right time.

I saw the car at Lavender's probably about a year ago. It had a not so great repaint on it by then. It was still original paint when Mike found it. Maybe I'll still end up with it one of these days if it doesn't go somewhere else first. Since I found the R code 63, the 64 is a lot lower on my want list.

I had a '69 Cobra Jet Torino years earlier that I'd bought from the original owner in Macon. It was unusual in that it was bench seat/4 speed and most of em I'd seen were automatics. I had sold Mike that car several years before the '64 R Code Galaxied deal came up.

(did I mention that I like old car stories? )
03-20-2007 01:17 PM
indigo66
Finally found a Ford forum

Must be Mike, if its the same Fosters. Mike's the one I don't really know, he's the Ford guy from what I've heard, and I think he lives in Gordon.

I saw your buddy (the one I got the 460 from) had the black/copper comet in his yard for sale. I really tried to talk my brother into buying that thing, I don't know why he didn't, wasn't my decision though.
03-20-2007 11:48 AM
rayell
Finally found a Ford forum

Indigo, which one drives a late Crown Vic, that looks like a GBI car? It is all black.

Ray
03-20-2007 04:07 AM
indigo66
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Quote:
On 2007-03-19 16:08, SolidLifters wrote:
Quote:
On 2007-03-18 05:01, indigo66 wrote:

I lived in twiggs county for 25 years and have never seen it, but I don't know everybody.

Good to see you back on here Ray, I was wondering if you were still hanging around.
Foster brothers had there first, then it went to Gordon to the big Ford collector there. (Lavender)
Foster brothers, as in WM's boys? Mike may have had it, I don't recall Mitch having owned one.

I tell you what,sometimes the internet makes for a small world.
03-19-2007 08:32 PM
FEandGoingBroke
Finally found a Ford forum

Cool! Dual 2's for me and I will likely have to use sme brass rings to restrict them a tiny bid... Together they will flow over 770 CFM and that's too much for my baby 202 CI inline 6... I'm aiming for 200+ HP and no more than +.04 on the bore.


FE
03-19-2007 08:15 PM
rayell
Finally found a Ford forum

Didn't know that you had changed. Well I will have part of a 4pack on the 6
03-19-2007 08:09 PM
FEandGoingBroke
Finally found a Ford forum

Oh you ARE all screwed up Rayell.... I got a 4 pack going on my Falcon... But you are going to wuss out and go with a 6 pack? Come on dear man, you can do better than that!


FE
03-19-2007 04:08 PM
SolidLifters
Finally found a Ford forum

Quote:
On 2007-03-18 05:01, indigo66 wrote:

I lived in twiggs county for 25 years and have never seen it, but I don't know everybody.

Good to see you back on here Ray, I was wondering if you were still hanging around.
Foster brothers had there first, then it went to Gordon to the big Ford collector there. (Lavender)
03-19-2007 06:19 AM
rayell
Finally found a Ford forum

Haven't been around here much, since I started building my Ranchero. Gotta show FE how it's done. LOL That thing should be a six-pack of trouble. At least I know it has 6cyl. and it's trouble to get my thoughts together on it. It's fun to work on though.

I'm scared to tell Gary what I'm doing. He will tell me that I am all screwed up.

Ray
03-18-2007 05:01 AM
indigo66
Finally found a Ford forum

Quote:
On 2007-03-16 20:26, SolidLifters wrote:


There was another one that came from the original owner in Eatonton that's in Twiggs county still as far as I know. When a '64 427 car was mentioned above I thought maybe that was it. This car was black and may've had red interior, but can't remember for sure. I got close to buying it about a dozen years ago from the original owner who kept saying it wasn't for sale, but somebody more persistent than me ended up with it for about half of what I'd offered for it at one time. Right place, right time I guess.
I lived in twiggs county for 25 years and have never seen it, but I don't know everybody.

Good to see you back on here Ray, I was wondering if you were still hanging around.
03-17-2007 10:25 AM
rayell
Finally found a Ford forum

Hudsom & Marshall, Inc. is conducting the sale. Bonbrake is the coordinator of getting the cars ready for the sale.

We share the same opinion on the sales that Bonbrake has and/or dealing with him.

I gave the phone number on the flyer since he is getting the cars together, and knows what is there to be sold.

Ray
03-16-2007 08:26 PM
SolidLifters
Finally found a Ford forum

Quote:
On 2007-03-16 18:09, rayell wrote:
The sale is from the estate of R.C. DeFoor, April 6th and 7th. RC didn't have no junk. Most of the cars that he bought were low milage originals. He bought mostly GM cars, but there are other makes. Over 100 cars, plus many parts, and tons of auto related items. You can call Bill Bonbrake at 478 743 1511 for more info, or email me or Pm and I will email you a flyer.
Thanks for the welcome guys.

I'm familiar with the late R. C. DeFoor, and of course his son's car stuff too. I didn't realize that his collection was being auctioned, but a lot of serious car guys won't fool with Bonbrake, and I'm one of those people.

Neat lookin' '64. There was another one that came from the original owner in Eatonton that's in Twiggs county still as far as I know. When a '64 427 car was mentioned above I thought maybe that was it. This car was black and may've had red interior, but can't remember for sure. I got close to buying it about a dozen years ago from the original owner who kept saying it wasn't for sale, but somebody more persistent than me ended up with it for about half of what I'd offered for it at one time. Right place, right time I guess.

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