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10-27-2002 10:15 PM
onehotpinto
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Theres no replacement for displacement. Get a '385'series, stroker kit, and aluminum heads and worry bout fitin it in when you get the car. There are tons of Fox body Mustangs around with them so you know they will fit into anything. As far as "cheatin" with power adders its only cheating if the rules forbid it. There are a lot of mild mannered street cars that are real animals when you open the bottle.
10-27-2002 01:20 PM
MuscleCarz69Mach1
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Ask for a Boss 429 or a 428 C\J. If the guy will give your son whatever he wants, either of those two would be the ones to go for. He would not have to "cheat for power" as he likes to say it.
10-27-2002 12:15 AM
JohnnyRay
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

If I had my choice of any engine as you do, I would pick the 460 cubic inch.

Like the good people have already said, it is hard to beat the torque of the big block.


10-26-2002 02:40 PM
SteeLDawN
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

they are in NorAm too.. 3 times the price of coupes
10-26-2002 02:16 PM
striebs
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Build something he can afford to run and insure when he turns 17 or whatever the age is in U.S.

Pick something which parts will be readily available and cheap for years to come.

Having changed a c4 for an AOD in my v8 Ford Cortina here in England I would recommend going with an overdrive transmission from the off. AOD or T5.

If I was in America , would go for early fastback mustang if cheap enough. Here in England they are twice the price of coupes.




10-26-2002 01:26 PM
deleted3
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

My head says small block, but my heart says BIG BLOCK. Fxjr just loves his FE wagon and it's making a great father/son project. The car is huge, so it's much safer than a mustang. Any rice bucket that hits him is gonna bounce right off... Anyway, torque is what moves the beast and a mild big block will make all you need and more without drivability issues.
10-26-2002 11:12 AM
deleted2
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Well no disrespect, but don't smallblock around, no torque. Don't build something there's not a plethera of aftermarket stuff for. Don't be afraid of a big engine, they can be put anywhere with some fabrication.




10-26-2002 10:15 AM
frdnut
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Since you have no idea what you will be putting this in I'd have to vote for the smallblock.You can fit them into any ford car that came with a v-8(and even some that didn't)and there is all kinds of aftermarket parts available thanks to the 5.0 crowd.If 400 hp is your goal this isn't "easily" attainable but certainly is possible with the smallblock.Aftermarket heads will make this much easier to attain but add to the cost.(by smallblock I'm talking 289-302).Also the parts are smaller and lighter for a 10 year old to be able to lift.

[ This Message was edited by: frdnut on 10/26/02 10:16pm ]
10-26-2002 03:07 AM
63Ford
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Well, if the engine is most likely going in a big car then I would say go big block. Don't get me wrong; those small blocks can fly in big ol' boats. I had a 302 in my '68 Galaxie 4door with a 2bbl carb and a Automatic tranny without second gear and that thing would HAUL BUTT! But it's soooooo much better now that it has a 390 (4bbl, Automatic) pushing those wheels.

If you do go big block then I would suggest the FE engine. Tons of torque even on purely stock engines with a pretty good amount of horsepower. That and you can get 390's or 352's pretty easily. Parts for them are common finds too despite what many other people say. Just do searches on eBay but there are several companies out there who produce FE stuff only.

Just my input on this and giving you some more options.
10-26-2002 02:58 AM
ZRX61
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Quote:
A 500 plus horsepower car for a teenager takes a lot of responcibility. I have seen kids and fast cars make some bad decisions because they make poor decisions with the amount of power.
But on the upside he'l clean up at the friday night street drags..
10-26-2002 02:04 AM
Luv70sFords
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Im gonna throw another vote in for a cleveland. Not only are they very capable motors, with lots of power being made with mostly stock parts, you would be doing us all a favor by teaching the next generation the raw power of the Cleveland.
10-26-2002 01:53 AM
Just Strokin
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Go big block. Prices are about the same. But the torgue at low rpms is a thrill.

A 429/460 rebuilt will pull moe g's than any mild small block. And now days, installation kits ae available to stuff the BBF into most anything.
10-26-2002 01:41 AM
SteeLDawN
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

sounds like a clever kid specially with the "horsepower cheating" heh
10-26-2002 01:32 AM
missin44
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

Thanks for the safety input, but he is only 10. Regardless I know what you mean about kids and fast cars. However, I'm still a very proud pop when I hear him say those little screaming rice rockets will never mach the rumble of an American V8. How cool is that for a 10 year old?
10-26-2002 01:12 AM
SteeLDawN
Father/Son Project: Build Ford Big or Small Block?

I'm partial to 351Cleveland engines, as they came with canted valves (better port angle for better flow) and oval ports (less flow restriction , as the air swirls in a round environment, gaining velocity more easily). A 2v (2 barrel heads) Cleveland is probably the best choice of clevelands. As for the year of engine, well I would say 72 is a good year (it's one i have rebuilt). They come with flat-top pistons, high compression, and a strong crank. There are a version of Australian heads available for Clevelands as an improvement to the stock 2v ones. ( this is the setup currently in my gf's 72 Mach I). I can provide you with more info on the Cleve, if you wish.

This strictly my opinion, and others will follow
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