I`ve always wondered about this for pretty much as long as I`ve owned my 70, 36 years now. The window cranks get into the grilles of the door speakers I added all those years ago, so not having to crank the windows would avoid that conflict. The door glass is pretty big on these cars and I wonder if the regulator is different to provide different leverage, mechanical advantage for a motor vs. manual crank. I`ve never seen a power window regulator for my vintage vehicle, so I have no clue how they differ. I do have a parts car, if I want to experiment.Hello 70XL,
You just may get your wish on the modification of the door window regulator from manual winder to electric. I did some preliminary research and it seems it just may be possible to remove the winder portion of the regulator and weld in the motor mounting pad portion off of a regulator that uses the same motor. I don't think I have to move the regulator to the second set of mounting holes as you do with the rear quarter window ones. The rear quarter power window regulators are radically different from the manual winders and that would be a bugger to do.
Since Ford used the same power window motor for over a decade I found a cheap (read 12 bucks shipped) brand new power regulator for a truck and will slice off the section of the electric motor mount and transplant (TIG) that onto the manual winder regulator. So I bought two of the cheap truck power regulators in pretty much the same way galaxiex converted his '68 Impala to power windows.
The reason why the rear quarter windows are so different is the electric motor would otherwise be in the way of window travel. Where as with the front doors it looks like the electric motor will be off in front (under the wing window) and out of the way. If I have two modify the 4 mounting holes for the regulator to use the other set of door holes so be it, but I'm keep my fingers crossed in the meantime.
I've just about given up on finding a set of front door power regulators as I do believe the ones that are left have been pretty much plucked out by others looking to do the conversion. Not less forgetting the ones I do see now (that don't fit this car) are astronomical in price for some old turd. I know because I bought the rears for basically a kings ransom and they look like they were drudged out of a swamp.
It's funny how unpopular 4 door cars are as I paid 30 bucks each (shipped) for the power regulators for the '66 LTD 4 door hardtop.
Yeah, Princess Auto is great, isn`t it! I`m very happy we have one here now. I always had to stop in every time I was in Saskatoon, whether I needed anything, or not. I`ve got bags of stuff I never knew I needed and still haven`t used, but I saved lots of money getting it on sale.It IS possible.... at least... I did this on a 68 Impala 4 dr sedan beater that I used to have.
My local Princess Auto store (sorta like Harbor Freight) carries surplus "stuff" and they had a whole slew of power window motors from... I don't know what...
... but they are an OEM design for :"something". I bought a bunch when they had a sale on them.
I took 2 of them and managed to mangle/mount them to the Impala front door manual window regulators.
Now, I have to say...they worked surprisingly well, even tho I was not too concerned about fit and finish.
I just kinda hacked up some brackets, drilled some holes and took apart the manual regulator and welded the gear to the motor.
Somehow stuffed it all back together and... It worked!
No-one was more surprised than me!
It all fit inside the door and you couldn't tell except for the missing window cranks.
Oh, and the switch panel I made for the center of the dash to operate the windows.
Understand, this car was a BEATER. It was severely rusted (rear window leaked BAD) but it only had 58K original miles on it, when I got it.
The original 307 2bbl and Powerglide ran like a champ!
The PG even still had the original factory fill in it (Whale oil based ATF)!!!!
I drove the car for 3 full years until it finally succumbed to the rust devil.
Here's a pic of the Impala next to an old school bus (long story)...
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Yep, they are great.... .... I never get out of there for less than $100.00....Yeah, Princess Auto is great, isn`t it! I`m very happy we have one here now. I always had to stop in every time I was in Saskatoon, whether I needed anything, or not. I`ve got bags of stuff I never knew I needed and still haven`t used, but I saved lots of money getting it on sale.
Hi 70XL,I`ve always wondered about this for pretty much as long as I`ve owned my 70, 36 years now. The window cranks get into the grilles of the door speakers I added all those years ago, so not having to crank the windows would avoid that conflict. The door glass is pretty big on these cars and I wonder if the regulator is different to provide different leverage, mechanical advantage for a motor vs. manual crank. I`ve never seen a power window regulator for my vintage vehicle, so I have no clue how they differ. I do have a parts car, if I want to experiment.
Thanks galaxiex for sharing that, I found that most interesting indeed. Although for terrain our landscape looks more like rickyracrer1983's landscape. One last questions, have you tried to design your own audio amplifiers?I actually work on both Solid State and Tube amps.
Been tinkering with electronics since I was 10 years old.
No formal education or training in electronics, just learn by reading and studying electronics books and manuals.
And also by doing of course.
I've built reverb and tremolo effects for amps that didn't have the effects built-in.
Had custom circuit boards made with Osh Park.
Modify guitar amp circuits to better suit my preferences, build and modify guitar effects pedals, etc...
Tinker and build one-off electronics gadgets not guitar related.
Oh yes, I do play guitar.
I'm rhythm guitar in our VERY amateur band, Los Vamanos.
Just a bunch of old fogeys wanting to have some fun and make some noise.
We are 7 members.
Lead guitar, 2 vocals, 1 male, 1 female (she's REALLY good, awesome voice), Bass guitar, Drums, Keyboards, and me rhythm guitar.
We do it for fun, for ourselves and play the occasional charity gig for free.
With this stupid virus thing we have not got together since March.
Really missing it.
Wanna go make some noise!
Sorry... Last one, I promise!
No more cluttering your thread with off-topic posts.
Thanks for your interest in my little hobby.Thanks galaxiex for sharing that, I found that most interesting indeed. Although for terrain our landscape looks more like rickyracrer1983's landscape. One last questions, have you tried to design your own audio amplifiers?
Hello galaxiex,Thanks for your interest in my little hobby.
To answer your question, well... no, not really.... I have never designed an amp from scratch.
I basically take tried and proven circuits and "cut and paste" different circuits together to get what I want.
As an example, I have a very popular "modern day" tube amp, the Fender Blues Junior.
It is constructed with printed circuit boards, rather than the old hand wired circuit card construction that made Fender amps so bullet proof back in the day.
Indeed, vintage Fender amps are still very popular and I have seen even basket case amps restored to their former glory.
I also own 3 vintage Fender amps from the 70's, a Vibro Champ, a Princeton Reverb and a Deluxe Reverb.
Anyway... I took my little Blues Junior and gutted it of all pcb construction and completely "re-made" it to vintage style hand wired circuit card construction.
Along the way I modified the circuit to have tube driven reverb, the original reverb was solid state.
Here's a pic of what that looks like...
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Sorry I don't have a pic of what it looked like before, but here's a pic from the web of the stock BJ guts.
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You will notice mine has an extra tube, that is for the tube driven reverb.
MIne is now all hand wired with "vintage style" cloth covered wire with modern high temp insulation under the cloth.
I fabricated the circuit card with all the eyelets, and chassis mounted the pots, jacks and tube sockets.
Those items were mounted to the pcb in the stock amp.
If you look close you will see that I applied heatshrink tubing to the ends of each cloth wire so the cloth does not unravel.
The circuit itself is a mish-mash of vintage Fender AB763 preamp circuit (with some mods) and the Blues Junior power amp circuit.
I'm not sure how you are on reading schematics... but here's the schematic I came up with for this amp.
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Everything to the right of the master volume control is mostly stock Blues Junior.
Everything to the left of the master volume is Fender AB763 with some mods.
Of course there is a lot more to it than drawing a schematic and soldering a bunch of parts together.
The circuit card layout took me about a dozen iterations until I got it where I wanted it.
Then parts choice decisions etc...
Took me about 3 months working part time to get it all done.
But it sounds Fantastic!
Hello rickyracer1983,If I may add one thing. Do a degree wheel check on your damper marks. No question later on.