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Here is a start to my 428 PI stroker build for my 64 Gal fastback.Original Low riser intake,2-600 Holley carbs.I chose to be different on the air cleaner choice,a lot of people go the oval dual quad air cleaner,but I chose this set up.The block is .40 over and with one cylinder slightly scarred so I hope no more boring is needed.I'm going with a 4.25 Scat crank and my biggest problem is deciding on a hyd. roller cam or flat tappet. I'm leaning to flat tappet due to budget. This build is for the street and maybe an occasional trip to the strip. More pics to come....
 

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Just one comment. If those are the cleaners that use foam as a filter, they are fire hazards.
 

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Isn't a paper filter a fire hazard also K?
No, as most (of the non-CHI-COM variety) are treated.

I am just saying they make one hell of a mess and are hard as hell to clean out of a carburetor.

Use dualing open element K&N's if you want performance and appearance.

I should have just kept my mouth shut.

OH GAWD. I hear DANIELLE pecking now... :frown:
 

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I was going to say the same thing about the air cleaners. They don't belong any anything that ever gets started.

The motor is looking great. I'm looking forward to hearing the final results after install.
 

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You guys are absolutely right about those air cleaners. I let a friend talk me into them,but I have a dual quad oval air cleaner lined up AND a 428 badge for the air cleaner too ! Those 428 metal badges are hard to find,I could use one more if you know anyone who has one.
Hopefully the engine will be ready to put in by the weekend.My only concern is the drive shaft length. My 64 Gal came with a Richmond super t-10 tranny and I am putting in a 390 4 speed top loader out of a 65 Galaxie and I haven't measured to see how much difference there is.

I have a scatter shield that I can use from the T-10 or should I just use the bell housing I have ?? I'm just street driving with a little horse play now and then. LOL
 

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Kultulz, Could you send the web site that has a picture of the filters you are talking about .

Thanks in advance !!
What type of final engine appearance are you trying for? Do you want to use the OEM one piece cleaner or do you want two separate ones?
 

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What type of final engine appearance are you trying for? Do you want to use the OEM one piece cleaner or do you want two separate ones?
I'm up for either one , I like both looks. I'd like to look at the two separate cleaners behind door # 2 Monty !
 

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My taste is mostly factory original or a very mild restomod thereof.



These cleaners were popular back in the early sixties. I don't know what style rocker covers you will be using. You could most likely source color keyed filters (blue - ACCELL).

Here is some more eye candy for you- Carl's Ford Parts

Like the car... :tup:
 

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I have a scatter shield that I can use from the T-10 or should I just use the bell housing I have ?? I'm just street driving with a little horse play now and then. LOL
If I had the choice, it would be the scatter shield.
 

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I'm torn between the OEM air cleaners that K posted ($175.00) or my buddy has an original oval air cleaner for $150.00 that I can put a 428 badge on.

I'll use the scatter shield off of the super T-10 if it fits,won't know that until we get it off. If you know anyone who needs a Richmond super t 10 with around 3500 miles on it ,I have one.
 

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I'm torn between the OEM air cleaners that K posted ($175.00)..
Those I showed were not OEM but STELLING & STELLING. Variations were used on the fifties 8V MERC. FORD used a variation of them on the 427 COBRA.

Just so you know. They were high class back when.

The oval aluminum cleaner will be correct for FORD HIPO of the period (1964).
 

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Well......How's it run??:frown2:
Well..here is the good , the bad , and the ugly....
I wound up going with a Comp 282 hyd. roller cam, Comp hyd. roller lifters, PRW stainless adj. roller rockers, CJ iron heads, and a 4.25 Scat crank.
I used an original Ford low riser dual quad intake, 2-600 Holley's, and an oval dual quad air cleaner.
I had "Carburetor" Joe Bunitec set up my intake and I bought two 600 Holley carbs from him. He did a great job cleaning the intake and setting up the carbs for me. This is the initial start up of the engine.


After the start up, I was noticing fuel leaking out on to the intake, in fact every time I ran the car there was fuel sitting on the intake. The fuel was leaking from the carbs but we couldn't figure out where?
Long story short, the fuel eventually washed out cylinder 4 and 8. Upon tearing down the engine, we noticed that the oil had metal in it ! Come to find out that around the exhaust ports on the aluminum intake looked like someone took and ice pick and started stabbing the ports, the aluminum intake was just flaking away !
So my machinist bored another .005 off the cylinders so now we are at .045 over.
So two years later, my engine seemed to run fairly strong but not like I wanted so I took the car to a shop and had a Mustang Dyno evaluation done. The engine was right at 472 HP at the flywheel. The shop I took the car to put a wideband airfuel sensor on and dialed in the carbs a little better.
Then as one of the shop workers was pulling my car back into their shop after a test run, the brakes failed and the car ran into a set of heavy steel doors knocking one of the doors off onto the hood of the Galaxie. That ruined the bumper, hood, messed up the fender, and ruined the grille.
We wound up re-painting the whole car because the first re- paint job was terrible. My first painter had a high school kid take the paint off with a roller sander and ruined a lot of the body lines....ugh.
We added a Crites tear-drop hood, new bumpers, etc.
While in the shop, the mechanics at V8 found that my flywheel had a loose bolt on it.... somewhere along the line I came up with a helicoil in my flywheel ! Now I had installed that flywheel brand new from Summit, how did a heli coil get in the flywheel ???? Hmmm?

here is the link to the job that V8 Speed and Resto did on my Galaxie.
http://v8tvshow.com/V8TV_2/index.php/en/2014-06-04-18-58-54/2014-12-15-18-02-49/351-1964-ford-galaxie-500-xl-upgrades-repaint
About a year and a half ago I had Blair Patrick set up a pair of BBM aluminum heads for me and that really woke the engine up, I also added a med. riser dual quad intake and got rid of the FlexLite fan and went with a Derale electric fan... The 428 breathes now and runs strong !
It was a real learning experience !
 
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