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i just got a 64 falcon yesterday. it has a 289cid, 650cfm ebelbrock carb, rpm performer edelbrock intake manifold. those are the only engine upgrades. it has a c6 out of a 83 f350. will a 351c bolt up to that tranny? if so how many mods will i have to make if any? gracias.
 

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Both motors will bolt to the C6. The windsor will fit in the engine bay with much fewer fitment problems than the Cleveland. Headers are an issue as with any motor. The Windsor is probably the best way to go. There are some on this forum that use that motor and they can tell you what headers will fit. You'll have to do a little research. There's a lot of potential in that 289. If it's a street car only or just a few trips to the strip, you should consider working with what you have. You can over power these old unibodies very easily. The structure was not orginally built to handle much more than what the factory installed without some serious mods to the frame. The C6 in a very tough tranny but it does absorb more horse power than the C4 or AOD. Anything you want to know about Fords old and new can be found on this forum, so read and read and read some more. Good luck and happy motoring.
 

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Neat Cars . I went the other route 302 EFI with AOD then added air , bucket seat and lots more stuff. Check it out the whole conversion can be seen at. http://www.marlin-car.us/falcon.html
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I love the how-to detail on your website. I have a 63-1/2 ranchero that I have been working on. I took a 5.0 and did a rebuild w/289 heads and a carb setup and a C4 trans.

I have a little beater escort wagon that just took a digger on me and I am thinking instead of paying someone $'s to do the timing belt - head etc - I would like to pay someone the money to put the efi setup I still have back on the motor in my Ranchero. I could do this...but I have other interests that I need to do.

anyone know a good shop in the LA area or Riverside area that does this kind of stuff?

Jim

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i know that the 289 and 302 are basically the same thing just different workings inside. is there a considerable difference in power between the two? and what are some suggestions on 289 power? i think i might just keep the 289 and work on it, i know it has tons of potential, and i dont have the time or money to do an engine swap, with college and all, so i might just give it some upgrades, it seems easier, and i know i can do a lot to a 289.
 

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The only thing about the 289 is the heads for a leaded gas engine do not have hardened seats. this would be my only concern - and maybe not that big of one. I have shelves of 289 heads - some of the exhaust valves are badly recessed in the head because they have run unleaded gas and some are not. I guess it depends on the casting. I know there are guys on this board that run these old heads without the hardened seat. Other than that the 289 is a fine little engine. Clean it up and run it. If it ain't broke don't fix it. 'specially since you are in school.

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In the early sixties Ford was cranking out 271 hp from the 289, with just a few modifications to the cam, exhaust and induction. Shelby if I am correct was getting 312hp out of the same motor. I had one of the HP 289's. It was a screamer. Solid lifter cam, double springs, and a decent carb. Just think what the potential is with todays aftermarket parts.
 

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I agree with Retyler that there's nothing wrong with the 289, and you can build them to get your Falcon to really scoot. It would certainly be the easiest answer. If you want some nice torque, the 351W is the answer. But if the budget's tight and you don't have one "laying around," just build up the 289. Fun engine. The 351W would not be a difficult job to get in the car.

My first thing would be to exchange that C6 for a C4. As Retyler said, the C6s soak up a lot more power, AND they're considerably heavier than the C4. You'll notice an immediate increase in performance just by that switch alone. Get a well built C4, have fun tweaking the 289 and if you decide later to go 351W the C4 could handle it.
 

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thanks for all the info. i dont know much about trannys, so ill probably ask a couple dumb questions. since the c6 takes up so much power, is it okay to run that tranny on my 289? will it wear out the engine? or just not give me much performance?
 

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alright sounds good. first thing i want to do is get a better camshaft. so saving up for that will take me sometime. thanks for all the info.
 

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I have a 351W on the engine stand to replace the 289 in my 64. Tubular Automotive makes headers for this swap.

Now what to do with my stock bore, five bolt, hi-po, k-code block...
 

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If it's a true k-code you should have left it in the car. You shouldn't have any problems getting rid of it.
 
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