On 2006-03-17 00:45, 289nate wrote:
More bling in my opinion on a street car. If you can lock up the front tires with the brakes you have then bigger just might ease a little pedal effort. On a road course it'd be money well spent.
A somewhat larger diameter tire is not going to make 15" rotors necessary on a street car.
If you are restricting your opinion to newer cars, Mustangs...I am inclined to agree with you. However, if you look at a lot of the older cars, the "Muscle Cars" and Factory Hot rods of the 50's, 60's even up into the 80's (Buick GN/GNX, Fox-body Fords)...many of those cars, especially when compared to what is being sold today… are severely, under equipped when it comes to braking!
Many (including me) used to avoid the freeway in 60's era cars, Galaxies for example, because little pocket rocket cars would pop in and out of lanes, hit their brakes or dive into an exit ramp with no regard to the much, much longer stopping distance required for a 2 ton car. Even worse, trying to haul down a 400+ horsepower tank, using 10x2, 10.5x2.5 or even 11"x3" drum brakes, is enough to make you grip the seat with every orifice at your command...it sometimes has been the cause of a faith-based reflection and renewed belief in divine, religious intervention.
Anti-lock brakes, disc brakes, better suspensions have brought the driving expectations of many performance drivers to a much higher plane, you step out of your everyday car, drive your “Toy” for a while and its apparent that something has to change.
When a stop requiring in excess of 200 ft, from 60 mph, is cut down by 20% - 25%, you realize that it has nothing to do with "Show 'n Shine", it's about whether you will spend time enjoying your car or parking it.
It’s much better to remember avoiding a collision; just cursing the pimple popping delinquent that just had to squeeze his 12 ft tinker toy into the 13 ft safety zone left when you merged into rush hour traffic…than to sit at the side of the road watching the car you spent 2 -3 years getting just right, being carried off down the road swinging on a hook, on the first step to being recycled into a Toyota.
Most of these older cars needed better brakes when they left the factory, once the engines have been breathed on...it should be a requirement. Disc brakes are not just for show. Moreover, 10" discs are not enough in stop and go traffic where you are constantly hauling down a 3500 - 4000+ lb car.
No doubt some people are Lemmings, just following trends...but that doesn't mean replacment brakes aren't a valid, important safety issue...one that is based on plain, good, old fashioned, common sense. If you upgrade the performance potential of your car, shouldn't you also upgrade the brakes?
The way I see it, the common alternative of using a bridge abutment, light pole, Oak tree or the car in front of you for assistance in stopping is both frowned upon and possibly deleterious for your health, comfort and peace of mind.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Beoweolf on 3/17/06 9:29pm ]</font>