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I went to look at this cougar today cause my buddy wants the car and I WANT THE CLEVELAND....... anyways I looked at the motor and it has the little no. 4 in the corner of the heads and the heads look like cleveland heads, but do all cleveland blocks look alike ? A 400 m has the ridge in the top of the block by the distributor and this does not . in the area by the distributor it just looks a little different than the other 2 clevelands that I have. could it be a 351m ? Does the 351m have a block that resembles the cleveland ? like I said, the heads have the little no. 4 in the corners so I think they are at least 4v 351c heads.
 

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There was a little dimple where there was none on the other blocks. like I said, it just looked out of place and I didnt know if it was i.d fore something like a 351m.
 

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351M/400 utilize the same block. The main external difference between the C and the M/400 is the deck height.
 

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On 2006-04-02 08:15, BlueOvalRacing wrote:
The cleveland block uses a small block bellhousing bolt pattern, the 351/400m uses a 429/460 bellhousing pattern - a lot different.
Other then the 72 400 which uses the the small block pattern.
 

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Other then the 72 400 which uses the the small block pattern.

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That would be a 1973 block sold in mid-size Fords and Mercurys. The casting codes are D1AE or D3AE. These are ofthen called 400FMX blocks due to the fact they were sold in cars with the 302W/351W/351C small bellhousing FMX transmission. Mine came out of a 1973 Ranchero, has a D1AE code, and these are now VERY difficult to find. I know of 6 so I'd bet Ford only cast up a few thousand of them and most of those are possibly now cast iron donars for Kia motors.

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On 2006-04-02 08:48, xafalcongs wrote:
Other then the 72 400 which uses the the small block pattern.

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That would be a 1973 block sold in mid-size Fords and Mercurys. The casting codes are D1ZE or D3ZE. These are ofthen called 400FMX blocks due to the fact they were sold in cars with the 302W/351W/351C small bellhousing FMX transmission. Mine came out of a 1973 Ranchero, has a D1ZE code, and these are now VERY difficult to find. I know of 6 so I'd bet Ford only cast up a few thousand of them and most of those are possibly now cast iron donars for Kia motors.

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I agree, was offered in dem dere station wagons and the like.
 

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On 2006-04-02 11:44, ZephyrZ7 wrote:
On 2006-04-02 08:48, xafalcongs wrote:
Other then the 72 400 which uses the the small block pattern.
That would be a 1973 block sold in mid-size Fords and Mercurys. The casting codes are D1ZE or D3ZE. These are ofthen called 400FMX blocks due to the fact they were sold in cars with the 302W/351W/351C small bellhousing FMX transmission. Mine came out of a 1973 Ranchero, has a D1ZE code, and these are now VERY difficult to find. I know of 6 so I'd bet Ford only cast up a few thousand of them and most of those are possibly now cast iron donars for Kia motors.

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I agree, was offered in dem dere station wagons and the like.


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Actually, They came in app's other then wagons.
 

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On 2006-03-31 23:18, ZephyrZ7 wrote:
the M engines don't state 2 or 4 in the corners, sounds like a bonafide 4 barrel cleveland
That's if you assume the heads originally came on that block, because I wouldn't.
 
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