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The new drag radials really sound impressive although I have not run any yet. I have run 1.63 60ft times thought with a 28x11.5-15 et street. I think just about any one will work with a good suspension. Just my .02. Just WHATEVER you do do not get caught in the rain with any dot slick. Trust me lol!
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What they said.
I used to run some M&H Racemasters and they were sticky, light, and looked like a drag slick with 3 grooves down the middle. There is nowhere for water to go so the rear end will hydroplane in the rain.
Tons of people are running great #'s with the ET Streets. They seem to be the hot ticket these days. I have no experience with them.
I run some BFG Drag radials. Little 215/60 14 and turned a 1.75 60 foot and 12.1 quarter on them this past weekend. That being said, I wish I had a set of larger M&H's or ET Streets. The sidewall flex with the other tires is MUCH better than with the radials.
I used to run some M&H Racemasters and they were sticky, light, and looked like a drag slick with 3 grooves down the middle. There is nowhere for water to go so the rear end will hydroplane in the rain.
Tons of people are running great #'s with the ET Streets. They seem to be the hot ticket these days. I have no experience with them.
I run some BFG Drag radials. Little 215/60 14 and turned a 1.75 60 foot and 12.1 quarter on them this past weekend. That being said, I wish I had a set of larger M&H's or ET Streets. The sidewall flex with the other tires is MUCH better than with the radials.
M&H was the first company out with a DOT slick. They had a 591 (super soft) and a D20 (I think) which was slightly harder. The 591 was too soft for all but the most lightweight cars, as the rubber would just ball up and roll off the things when spun. The D20 was ok.
That being said, M&H put street legal slicks on the map.
Some time after that, Mickey Thompson came out with their ET-Street tires. These far outclassed the M&H offerings, and M&H soon fell off the map. Hoosier then came out with their offering, (Quick Time Pro) which was pretty much the same as the MT, but seemed to last a lot longer.
I'm not familiar with M&H's current offering.
The MT ET-Street Radials are a FAR cry above the BFG. MUCH better tire.... but radials in general do NOT work well with stick shifts. Their sidewalls are much too stiff and don't absorb the shockloads a stickshift dishes out. They also don't recover once they start to spin like a bias ply slick will.
Good Luck!
That being said, M&H put street legal slicks on the map.
Some time after that, Mickey Thompson came out with their ET-Street tires. These far outclassed the M&H offerings, and M&H soon fell off the map. Hoosier then came out with their offering, (Quick Time Pro) which was pretty much the same as the MT, but seemed to last a lot longer.
I'm not familiar with M&H's current offering.
The MT ET-Street Radials are a FAR cry above the BFG. MUCH better tire.... but radials in general do NOT work well with stick shifts. Their sidewalls are much too stiff and don't absorb the shockloads a stickshift dishes out. They also don't recover once they start to spin like a bias ply slick will.
Good Luck!
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My brother has the new M&H tires. they are a very very good tire. the car hooked soo good now it made the rear shift foward. the new tires are a true slick with only two line cut in and d.o.t stamped on them.by looking at the tires they are the best d.o.t slick out there. i will try to get some pics of them.
The Hoosiers are made the same way. I had a set several years ago.
http://www.hoosiertire.com
And specs from Mickey Thompson
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/
I've tried BFG Drag Radials. I've run several different brands of slicks. My choice of street tire is definitely the Hoosier Quick Time Pro. I can hardly tell the difference between them and full blown slicks. They are night and day better than drag radials. How long they last on the street is the only draw back.
Watch this video to see MT Drag Radials in action. The 1st race is the Drag Radial Final at WFC last weekend.
http://www.nmraracing.com/nmratv/2006/worldford/mediaTv.php?file=1
http://www.nmraracing.com/nmratv/2006/worldford/mediaTv.php?file=1
The MT drag radials are FAR better than the BFG's. But the cars running like the one above are running that well DESPITE having to use drag radials, not BECAUSE they are running drag radials.
Shock loads are the killer to drag radials. Their sidewalls aren't as forgiving as a bias slicks, so they don't absorb shockloads very well. This makes it tough to make them work with a stick shift. They also don't recover very well once they start spinning. They work pretty well on cars that apply their power in a smooth fashion. (automatics, turbos, etc)
I have a friend that has a set of MT drag radials on a 1969 Camaro powered by a 421 SBC and an automatic. It has a VERY loose rear suspension that absorbs any left over shockloads from his automatic. It will pull the front wheels on a good track, and even hooks pretty well on the street. They aren't a slick, but are about as close as you are going to get with a radial.
The guys in Super Stock that use radial slicks use them on GOOD tracks for record attempts. IF they hook, they are slightly faster than bias tires, since they have less rolling resistance. IF they spin, the run is over. Most of these guys use bias tires for their 'regular' runs.
If you don't really NEED a slick, and you've got an abundance of traction, you will probably be quicker on a drag radial. If you are somewhat traction limited (can't launch WFO without spinning) you'll be quicker on a regular (bias) race or DOT slick.
Good Luck!
This will give you an idea how well ET streets hook. This is on a car that puts out about 335 hp at the wheels, with only modified Shelby bars for traction aid, at 12.5 lbs pressure. Best 60' is 1.59, although on the day the pic was taken I was getting 1.70's. If anyone knows, is the tire wrinkling too much? Wondering if I should go with a little more pressure...
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3300 lb car. 1.47 60' hanging the front wheels on Hoosier Quick Time Pro's.
There is not going to be a best and worst tire overall. It will depend on the car and the setup and the track.
Fast cars on drag radials do some tricky things to make them work - pulling back timing within the first second, etc.
There is not going to be a best and worst tire overall. It will depend on the car and the setup and the track.
Fast cars on drag radials do some tricky things to make them work - pulling back timing within the first second, etc.
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