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I'm going to start my build thread now that I'm actually getting somewhere on the car and need to put it here instead of random posts in the Fairlane section.

So, the plan...

63 Fairlane 4 door 500. It has a Rod and Custom Mustang II front end in it. The rear is this Explorer 8.8 I shortened and am putting a 4 link in with. THe drivetrain is a 1994 Lincoln Mark VIII 4.6 DOHC with a 4R70W. I will do the suspension with springs in front for now and straig bar for the rear so I can transport to my retirement house and shop next year. It'll end up an air bag setup thought.

I have toyed with the idea of a turbo on this car. Some will say I'm overbuilding it for a simple cruiser but I do that with everything. I like having it done right with the flexibility of upping the performance without having to change out half the car's parts.

So, without further delay, here is today's progress..........

I got a lot of information to digest now after getting the front tires mounted on the wheels today. With the car at the ride height I want, the driveshaft will end up hitting the trans tunnel back by the rear half of the car. I have to section and notch it up about 1.5" as I only have around that much room for compression as it is. The rear sits 5.25" from the framerail with no bumpstop installed. I'll raise the rear to see where it sits fully compressed and see how it looks for the bag setup. I also did a good thing by keeping the independent rear from the Mark VIII. The pinion flange from the rear is too big and needs re-drilled for the Mark VIII driveshaft, so I'll just pull the flange off the IRS and use it. Hopefully the pinion gear splines are not different. This stance gives me now a 7.25" rear ground clearance just in front of the back wheel and 6-6.25" from the ground to just behind the front tire. I'll swap to a 50 series front instead of these 45's to bring it back up to just about 3/4" difference and give me a little more sidewall. These will do for now. My back is killing me for climbing under the car so many times today. Time for a movie and meds.







Any comments or ideas are welcome.
Thanks
Dave




I'll post some older pics to show the parts and progress.
 

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Here's what I started with. It is a 75,000 original mile car that had a 260 in it. I got it from a dairy farm that was storing it for an old man for close to 15 years. Paid $1200 and used a 20oz Mt Dew bottle with gas in it to get the car to drive on the trailer. I drove it off at the house and right into the garage late 2011 and have been working on it since.




 

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I had plans for a 351.AOD combo and had the components but went away from that idea. I had to do some mods to the frame and mounts to fit the new drivetrain in.








A pic of the donor car......


 

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Here is the desired ride height and the 8.8 progress. I'm scrounging cash together for the 4 link triangulated setup. Just need that and the 1.25x2" sub frame connectors and then the one short axle and I can put the car on the ground.






What I want for cruising height.

7.25" rear ground clearance to the pinch weld and 6.25 in the front.





The interior of the car will remain factory but refreshed and I'll do my best to keep it column shift. New gauges in the factory panel and the air ride switches and maybe a Vintage Air system. Otherwise, I'd like to keep it as stock as possible.
 

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Nice work Dave, a classic version of the modern more door touring car, ala Audi, Bmw, & my fav. Pontiac's G8.
We are throwing this idea around
64 -4 door Fairlane - AS4
Drivetrain- Audi S4(or RS4) an excellent chassis, all wheel drive, superb cornering ability.
But for now, following along with your build with much interest!
 

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I had that dream once. I considered taking the entire drivetrain out of my 01 A6 with the twin turbo V6 and doing that with the AWD. I'm not an engineer or anything (I just work on Nukes for a living....) so I didn't think I had the knowledge of the strut idea and steering stuff so I'd destroy them both on my own. I do love the idea though. If I could find another 4 door or better yet a Wagon, I'd probably look at something like that. Many wrecked ones in my area.

Thanks for the complements guys. I really can't wait to get something done again. I've been out for medical issues and our new Air Force medical coverage is not cooperating with me. I'll be back at the car soon enough I hope.

Where is Evergreen? I do enjoy seeing other's ideas and work.

Dave
 

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I pulled the pinion flange off the IRS and now have it for the Fairlane. I also picked up the sand blaster and some sand but can't get to it because it's too cold and windy outside. I decided to wire up some of the bay. All the injectors have been wired in and a few other things. It looks better without the factory setup wiring and the white loomed wiring all over the top of the engine. Just a few more and I'll be ready to cover it all up with loom or tape as required.

I can't wait for summer to get here.
 

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Great stuff Dave- Wiring, ugh!
Jet- We bought a cheap,junkyard Suby, just to look at what would be possible. My son started tingering with it, & a couple of body panels later, a Cobb controller & the little screamer is on the road!
I know what you mean, Dave, The weather is not cooperating, had my shelter Logic work shed collapse after snow/ice storm on the weekend, Thankfully, the Fairlane & Suby had both been removed to repair the roof !
 

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We're crunching money now to have a fat down payment on our retirement home with my shop on it. I'll have a 2 post and tons of heated indoor room and then it's on. Hopefully this next fall is our move date.
 

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I'm headed to Cali for the weekend and then when I get back, I have to test fit a turbo in the bay. I have a little 60mm setup from an LT1 that I'll borrow for size but I think I'll see what room I have, get it running and start collecting the parts for the turbo setup. At least I can modify the bay as needed before I paint so it's ready to receive. Never know. I just might get the wild hair and go for it.
 

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Single Turbo?
I have a couple off a T-coupe, that once in a while I position in the engine bay & dream. My problem, running a stock block & close to power level where a stocker decides to split, so I'd have to go with an aftermarket block to use the Turbos.
Looking forward to following your install if you do go that way
 

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I'm headed to Cali for the weekend and then when I get back, I have to test fit a turbo in the bay. I have a little 60mm setup from an LT1 that I'll borrow for size but I think I'll see what room I have, get it running and start collecting the parts for the turbo setup. At least I can modify the bay as needed before I paint so it's ready to receive. Never know. I just might get the wild hair and go for it.
If you're thinking of going turbo on this car, it's more than likely you will. Id go for it now and modify the engine compartment and build the turbo setup you're going to use at the same time.

On the rear suspension have you considered an IRS setup, you might not have to modify the trans tunnel to get the ride height you want?
 

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What block are you using? I had a stock 93 5.0 roller that put out 440rwhp through a T5 with a slipping clutch and it was holding. The clutch would have surely indicated around 75-100 more hp if it would have held. That put my block at around 500-550 crank hp. That was with 15psi from a blower with a massive belt pulling on the crank. The clutch and tranny went out soon after the dyno run. Those turbos would be fine with a good fuel and exhaust setup to support. I was thinking of that idea too but I'd surely have space issues.

I'll only shoot for around 5-7 psi due to the 9.8:1 CR, tranny and lower half of the engine. I want a smaller turbo because I want to boost the lower end of the RPM's. It's a street car that will not see 6000+ rpm's.

Again, that's all potential. I really need to get the car running, on the ground and clean up the body. I've almost set on going back to factory 2 tone colors now too as well as the complete factory interior. Starting a turbo setup now would only delay getting it running. I can make that a complete project after engine rebuild too. Just keeping the options open. I've seen a few Fairlanes with a blower or NA 4.6. Not too many turbo'd ones for the mild street. I may go with a GT45 but that's the high end of it.

Again, thinking and dreaming on the keyboard here. We'll see what happens.
 
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