[82GT]

After pulling my tranny down and installing my new Edge converter, I'm having trouble getting the tranny to mount back up to the engine.
I'm doing this project on the ground, which makes it much harder already.
I can get it within an inch of the engine but I just can't seem to snug it up the rest of the way. All the bolt holes seems to be inline so far. I also made sure the converter was seated properly against the pump.
Why won't it go together?

 

[Fomoco8]

Did you put a little grease on the converter pilot? Its been my experience that if the trans isnt perfectly aligned it just won't go, I made a special holding fixture for my trans work and it helps a bunch, If your trying to jockey it in using the usual backyard stuff, jack ,2x4's etc: it will just take time, Look for any interfernce with the case but its my guess a converter stud is hanging up in the flexplate, Be patient and DON"'T try to pull the trans and engine together with the bolts!!
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[82GT]

I didn't put grease on the converter pilot...should I have?
What's your special holding fixture consist of?

 

[tony]

Also, is your convertor installed correctly? If it is not engaged, you will break the front pump. Voice of experience......

 

[71hotrodpinto]

Yno ive installed and reinstalled 5 or 6 auto trannys in my time and Every time its because i didnt get the convertor all the way in. Every time i was SURE that it was seated. And id CUS and yell the whole time when i coulnt get the bellhousing to seat against the block - tranny back out and check it again. Sure enough one more turn and FHOOMP convertor goes in another 3/8 1/2" home.
Id check it again.
Good luck

 

[allenman85]

Was there paint on the pilot? I've seen where the paint keeps the converter from seating in the crank.

But! Be sure to check the seating. The coverter should be around 3/4 to 1" behind the bellhousing surface when you start mating the tranny to the engine.

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[FEandGoingBroke]

Yep.... Often it's one more harumph and it's in.... Some are 2 clicks in and some go 3...

FE

 

[82GT]

I'll give it another shot tomorrow night. I'll keep you posted.
What I really need is another set of hands!

 

[82GT]

On 2006-04-12 19:40, allenman85 wrote:
Was there paint on the pilot? I've seen where the pain keeps the converter from seating in the crank.

But! Be sure to check the seating. The coverter should be around 3/4 to 1" behind the bellhousing surface when you start mating the tranny to the engine.

Yeah, there was paint on the pilot. The converter does seem to set about an inch behind the bellhousing surface though.
I guess it wouldn't hurt to pull it all down and try again.

 

[gregaust]

An easy way if on your own is to use some guide studs in the block to help slide the trans up to the dowels without dropping down.

 

[retyler]

That worked for me also, when installing any tranny.

 

[dbiscayne]

I doubt not having grease on the nose of the converter is gonna keep it from slipping in. It's almost always because the converter isn't all the way into the tranny. It needs to go in so far that if you had your fingers around the converter and it slid in all the way you would ALMOST smash your fingers, any more clearance than that and it's probably not in all the way.

I could not, no way was it gonna happen, get my converter to go in while the trans. was horizontal under the car. Had to wiggle it out from under the car, stand it up on it's tailshaft and let gravity help as I turned and fought with the converter and when it drops in it really drops in. Before you try to get it back under the car take some wire and go across the bellhousing bolts to hold the converter in all the way. Don't take the wire off until the last minute just before you can put the bolts to the engine in. You may have to put a block of wood between the wire and the converter for extra pressure.

And if theres fluid in the tranny it's gonna leak out of the tailshaft some, be prepared with some rags or tape a bag over the tailshaft, and put some wood under the tailshaft so you don't beat it up when you stand it up.

 

[Fomoco8]

My rig consists of a 12 x12 inch piece of plate steel with short angle irons welded on 3 sides, i then welded the plate to a jack lifting pad and it makes tranny installs an easier one man job than i ever expected. The plate steel i got at Lowes and angle iron is available there too, probably about 30 bucks for it all,

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[ujt389]

fomoco8 could you post a pic of your rig?

 

[82GT]

I already have a tranny jack I'm borrowing. Part of the problem is the fact that it takes up valuable space under the car, which leaves me little room to manuver while wrestling with the tranny.
I'm going to pull it all down again and match the converter to the flexplate to see if there are any issues there
What size are the bellhousing bolt threads? Maybe I can make a set of guides.

 

[Lambbo2003]

FE and dbiscayne are right, 3 clicks. If the converter is in all the way, you can't fit your fingers between it and the pump. Take a strait edge across the bell housing, see how far the pilot is from the strait edge, should be an 1" to 1.5" if I remember correctly. Spin, wiggle and push....... it will find it's way home. I have found some to be a very tight fit when I was an R&R man in the tranny shop.

 

[82GT]

I just took it all down AGAIN. I put the new converter up the flexplate to see if there was a mismatch there and there wasn't. The pilot fits in the crank hole and all the studs line up so I'm good there.
I put the converter back on AGAIN...spun it until I heard the 3 clicks. I didn't take any measurements. I'll do that tomorrow.
I'm just probably going to have to wait until I can get my buddy over here and help out. He has done dozens of tranny swaps on the ground and is confident he can get it to go in. It might not be until the weekend though but it's probably worth the wait bacause I'm just getting to frustrated out there by myself. The next time I'm pulling engine and tranny together!!

 

[FEandGoingBroke]

I lay them across my chest and use my knees to lever the rear up and down until is snaps in!

FE

 

[82GT]

I have my car too high up to do that. It's up on 6 ton jack stands

 

[Fomoco8]

Hers the rig i welded up to do trannys by myself , works like a champ.

took about an hour to do and at around 30 bucks i though it was a great idea,