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Hi everyone. Just bought a 1965 Custom500 its all original un-restored. Plenty of work ahead, but I love the car. One big Q for everyone is this...its a factory 289 C4 car. I seem to hear that the 289's are pretty popular, but this car seems so BIG, will the 289 be able to get me cookin'? I would at least build the top end up, probably an intake, cam, carb,headers combo. Whats everyone think? Any good sources of 289 info? Thanks for any advice.
 

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The 289 is a fine engine, but were talking about a big ole galaxie, not a 64.5 Mustang. If I was in your shoes, I'd drive the 289 as it is, and save some pennies for a bigger motor. 351 min, but a nice 390 is even better.

Keep in mind, the biggest reason the smaller engine was available in these cars was for a low base cost.
 

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Yea. Thats kind of what I thought myself. I think I might pop in a cam and intake, carb the thing, and enjoy it until I can build big. As far as the C-4 goes? Does it take a crap once you put anything bigger in front of it? Or can it be built to handle? Thanks again.
 

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I agree, drive the small block while you build up a nice FE series engine-390,427,428 etc. You will see the difference when you go with the FE. Welcome to the site, it is the best as you will find out.
 

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Hey, welcome aboard.

I've got a '63 Gal with a 390 and a '66 with a 289. Ain't nothin' wrong with a 289; I think it was Ford's finest engine (just my opinion). You might want to save a few of those pennies for gas if you're planning anything larger. The C-4 can be beefed up fairly well. Be thankful you didn't get stuck with the more common Lame-O-Matic.

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65Kustom500,

Take a good look at your trans, my 66 is original with a 289, but my trans is a Cruise-O-Matic MX not a C4.

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Congrats.

And Listen to dadurweird, I bet you have a MX too.
 

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I find my 289 has plenty of oomph

Congrats on the new ride, and welcome!!
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Welcome. My 289/C4 combo in my 64 works fine.A whie back I was going to swap in a 351w , but the block was no good So untill I find a good deal on one I 'll keep the 289 going. I agree drive it untill you save up some coin for a different motor. A big block would be sweet, but I would go for a 351W
 

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351 is the way to go, good power, parts are easy and you don't have to hunt up all the accessory pieces. I think (CRS), there was a C-6 that bolted to the 351 but I would go the overdrive if available.
 

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I am going to stick with my 289 for the time being. Finishing up on four wheel disc conversion, re-building the front and rear suspension, new springs, roll bars, shocks, etc.

When it comes time to re-do the 289, I'll put in a 331 stroker kit. My car will not be a racer, just a cool cruiser, jst have to make the car stop before I make it go faster.

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Yea you guys are right, it is a Cruise O Matic ... but I was under the impresion that the cruise o matic was a C4... so its not? Also, will a late model 351W Fuel Injected motor out of a heavy duty van, be all the same bolt patterns as an older model? Also... my 302 is out of a Late Model T-Bird, so its a 5.0 HO motor. Roller cam etc...
 

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I'm sure 64 c 4 bell housings are a 5 bolt and later years are 6 bolt.
you can swap out the bell housing ( make sure you get the right one case fill or pan fill) this will alow you to bolt it up to the 302-351. you will need to keep yor oil pan ( front sump)
 

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The trans name thing is confusing. Ford called many different actual transmissions 'Cruisomatic'. The FX/MX/FMX are all related and don't really have the aftermarket backup if you want performance parts. C4 is very popular behind small blocks and you can get anything you need. C6 is popular for big blocks and again you can get whatever you need.

Some call the FX/MX transmissions a cruisomatic, but that confuses the issue too much since a car with a C4 will have 'Cruisomatic' listed in the owners manual and on the shift indicator.

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I believe all Ford auto tran's in the 65-66 years said Cruis-O-Matic, which meant one may have a MX/FX/C4, or C6. If I am not mistaken, 66 was the last year for the Cruise-O-Matic lable, and the green dot shift indicator.

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Yea my shift indicator has the cruise o matic emblem on it, and after I ran the numbers on the door sticker it should be a C4 how else can I tell?
 

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Do a Google search for a picture of a C4 will help. MX and their variants have an iron case, C4's have an aluminum case.

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I have a 65 custom 500 and I have a 70 302 in it with a manual trans with 3.00 rear gears and it moves pretty good,even with those gears it could use another so I have a 5 speed from a mustang that will be going in this summer. Sometimes in the future I will be adapting EFI to the 302 using crown vic and mustang parts. Jeff
 
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