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Well, I blew up my C-4 5000 stall with a brake in October. I started reading this forum for ideas to make it stronger and last longer between rebuilds months ago. Man you guys know your stuff here. I was thinking about the 6 pinion upgrade and roller bearing conversion. After much debate on what to do and which way to go, I.E. do it myself or have someone else do it, I decide to just order a new Performance Automatic PN PA-26107, its hard to beat a lifetime warranty. The tranny arrived yesterday and I was surprised to find that this latest version of the Super Comp with brake still has the internal transbrake switch valve body install and not the pro 4.0 brake that I had hoped for. Oh well, its still a very nice piece anyway. They did tell me that I could put my pro brake from my other trans in it and it wouldn't void the warranty, or I could up grade to their 4.0 brake for 450.00

I'll let you know how well this tranny works later, got a race on may 6th.

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Personally, i'm getting to the point where I don't much care for PA......there customer service sucks and several parts i've ordered from them have had to go back.

I think they have Mickey Mouse packaging there parts!!

Good luck with the tranny, i'm glad you have a lifetime warranty!! Although, shipping cost would kill somebody getting it to and from them for freshen-ups!!
 

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Thanks for the welcome.

Yeah, I guess shipping is on the high side. I figuring I'll UPS it to them to save money, if they drop it a few times it will still get fixed, then I'll truck freight it back. Should be about 300.00 round trip. Not that bad right? Actually that's a lot for a refresh since I've been doing it myself for about 40 buck. Must not have been doing something right though. They keep blowing up!
 

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Saturday May 6th we had 2 back to back races and jackpot race. The trans was flawless. I was # 1 qualifier in the first race running right on my dial.

I went out in all 3 races in the second round with a red light, -007, -002 and -010.

The internal trans brake that I thought would be slow was in fact very fast for a .500 tree in my car, which will go red anywhere. Going red had nothing to do with the trans it was all my fault, I keep adjusting my adjustable transbrake switch to cut that great light, I just got greedy. The worst light of the day, even through qualifying was an .021, but I wanted more.

The trans had firm shifts and was very consistent, it was repeatable round after round.

My first impressions are that this is a well built tranny. Now the test will be too see how long it holds up.

Jeff
 

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No Greg, New PA 26107 right out of the box. Built March 19, 2006.

First time on the track. It works great

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Have just spent alittle time reading your C4 posts. It does appear that PA is not the builder of choice these days. I think when I first started messing around with these things that I would have brought PA....general consensus was they were the best. I guess the "free freshen for life" is a pretty big carrot to ignore...till you start factoring in the shipping costs. So I will back-track on my previous post in your other thread, if you are confident... you may well be much better off fixing it yourself.
I have spent alot of time hunting round various forums looking for unrelated information but have found alot of C4 threads. Dynamic appear to be THE builder these days and most guys with high(ish) hp are using them.....I realise that its probably not viable to change but thought I would just point out the current vibe.
Can you give us alittle more history/information on your C4....like total passes, passes before freshening, breakages/problems, weight/hp/gearing etc....I am sure it would be of interest to the "group".
I have not had a great run out of ours (homebuild with PA parts)...some of it self-inflicted....some not. If I have learnt nothing else, its the trans must be perfect when using the brake.....its real hard on components.
 

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Ok, I have had a decent read...so this thing has only done 23 passes? Don't worry about the history!!
 

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Car Specs: 61 Falcon, Weight 2850, HP 500, 69 351W block bored .060 over, Scat forged crank, BME 13:1 forged pistons, Chet Herbert solid roller, .643 total lift, Victor Jr. Alum heads and intake manifold, Chet Herbert roller lifters, Crane Gold Race rockers, Holley 850 HP by Comp Carbs, Continental 8" 5000 stall converter on a PA C4 with Trans brake. 9" Ford narrowed with spool, 513 gears, 31 spline Moser axles and 31-14-15 Hoosier slicks. No power adders.

23 passes on tranny all 1/4 mile. 60ft's with PA tranny 1.40 launching on 2 step @ 4500 rpm at 4000ft non corrected ALT. DA is always about 6000ft or more in summer on my weather station.

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Cheez....well it isn't really stressed by excess weight or hp is it?? I assume you checked the flex plate to converter clearance....
 

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CMF60, Clearance was the same as the old trans on first install.

I just shipped the trans off to PA. 94.00 UPS and it's going to take a week to arrive. This is going to be a pain if this trans keeps breaking during racing season....!

Just waiting now for PA to tell me whats broke, if they will.

Jeff
 
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