stupid tranny

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Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · Mar 20, 2006

OK well i put the car all together started it and fluid started leeking out bad from where the convertor goes in. I thought it was the front seal so i take the trans out replace the seal put it back in start it today does the same thing. It doesnt just drip, it runs out does anyone know wat the problem could be?

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cmf60

· #2 · Mar 20, 2006

Are you soaking your seals before you put them in? If not, soak the seak in trans fluid for atleast 1/2 hour before you install it in the pump.....3 or 4 hours is better.
If you have pre-soaked them.....make sure you have the correct seal, look for any burrs or marks on the converter snout, support bearing in good order....and use alittle vasaline on the converter snout and seal before fitting the converter.

clevelandstyle

· #3 · Mar 20, 2006

It sounds like the pump gasket to me.

Stuarta

· #4 · Mar 20, 2006

Depending on the year it may have an "O" ring around the pump.

There is a gasket behind the pump that can leak as well.

If you had the convertor housing off then reinstalled it you could have twisted the pump and tore the gasket.
Have a look at the bushing in the pump. They can pull forward and cut off the return hole.
In rare cases I have seen leaks at the hub weld on the convertor.

Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 20, 2006

Hm is it hard to change the pump gasket? I never took one of these apart lol

Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 20, 2006

the year is a late 70 c4

dfree383

· #7 · Mar 20, 2006

Pump Gasket !!!

Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 20, 2006

alright ill change it , i knew i shoulda did it when i had it out the first time. Thanks everyone

Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #9 · May 23, 2006

OK took me a wile lol, but i took the trans out and took the bellhousing off and the whole pump and internals started coming out with the bell... the pump was like stuck on the bell is that normal? i didnt get a gasket or anything yet but i put it back together so i can put the tranny away but i dont even know if its together right lol i never worked on a transmission im only 19 this is my first project like this ... if the internals started to come out is sumthin wrong? OH and the pump gasket looked tore up but i dunno if thats from me taking it apart or not it was all broken

chipmechanic

· #10 · May 23, 2006

It was probably the pump gasket. Ive had this happen too. Just kind if gushes. You WILL have to make sure it all fits together like it supposed to before you start tightening anything . Easiest thing to do is take the front band out and put all the dums and etc stuff together on the bench and then sliding it in as a unit and stand the trans up on its tail ( with something supporting it ) . Then reinsert the front band and then the pump. Put on the bell then tighten it up and then adjust the band.

Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #11 · May 23, 2006

hm i have no clue how but i guess i can give it a try ha.. how do you adjust the band after its together?

anchoright

· #12 · May 23, 2006

I'm sorry, but I feel your pain.. A lot of work!!!

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chipmechanic

· #13 · May 23, 2006

Sounds like a lot of work but once you do it you'll realize how easy it was. This might be a good time to check your drum pack clearances and mabe change the clutches. $20 worth of clutches is essentially a transmssion rebuild.

To adjust the band you tighten the outer adjuster to 10 ft lb and then loosen the adjuster 1 1/2 turns . Then lock down the adjuster nut.

Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #14 · May 23, 2006

i dunno maybe ill just take it to this tranny guy my uncle knows and see how much he would charge to fix it all and stuff

forthman

· #15 · May 23, 2006

Ahhh heck get an exploded veiw of the tranny and do it yourself.
Plenty of help here on this board.
By reading the Monster thread and getting exploded views of the C-4 i have rebuilt mine. It works like a champ. Shifts so hard makes my teeth rattle.
You original problem was a bad pump gasket.
My guess is the pump came out with the bell.
If you have a camera you can post a pic and i am sure get lots of help here.

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Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #16 · May 23, 2006

i can take pics ya but i dunno how to put them on here... back inside where the input shaft goes looks like a piece of metal fell down i moved it out of the way with a screwdriver and the shaft went in but doesnt seem to turn ... its really hard to turn should it be easier?

gregaust

· #17 · May 23, 2006

Email to me ,i can post it for you.

forthman

· #18 · May 24, 2006

Sounds like a thrust washer fell.
not hard to put it back and get it back together

Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #19 · May 25, 2006

ah i ended up just takin it too a guy hes barely even gonan charge me cause he knows my uncle... i just didnt wanna mess stuff up more then it was lol thanks for the help though everyone

Z400ryder8

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 6, 2006

well started it today no leak.. so thank god lol ... thanks for the help everyone

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